White Noise

[simonnott]

When I first listened to it I didn't like it. I think I'm always secretly hoping for a full on Punkabilly kick in the chops of an album and when it's not I'm gutted. Then I took the album with me in the car and listened to it for an hour and a half to, then another hour and a half back from Salisbury Races and I now love it because I listened to it for what it is, The Living End 2008 and not 1998. Chris' lyrics get me, especailly 'Moment in the Sun'. The sound took some getting used to but now it's going to be on heavy rotation and no doubt the sounds that will always remind me of summer 2008 - yes it's sunny in Pommyland!

[AlinaPOW]

i am ACTUALLY gonna end up in a loony bin this time.
No album has ever so firmly stuck in my head for this long, without any breaks. My heads a mess of riffs and lyrics and i can't do aaaaanything about it except to keep the album on heavy rotation. I am SO impressed, its amazing. Not a single song disagrees with me even in the slightest. Every song is a rock solid gold mine and the lyrics back that up.
Moment in the Sun was admitedly, not my favourite track during the longnecks tour. I can't get enough of it now!! The piano's a nice touch, its got that Cold Chisel-esque magic to it.
Make the Call is such a kick in the guts... soooo good!!!
I played Raise the Alarm to my russian orthodox mother.... that was an interesting scene :p

[funnyboy88]

To be honest, I always thought there were a few dudes on each TLE album, but each track on this release is solid. It might because its 11 tracks instead of 14. Cut the fat. Smart move.

[Kacky]

I'm in love with this record, although a lot of people knew that already.

Kid is one of my favourites now, it's just so fun and makes me want to dance around, or something.

Hey Hey Disbeliever is funtastic too.

[Wild Turkey]

To be honest, I always thought there were a few dudes on each TLE album, but each track on this release is solid. It might because its 11 tracks instead of 14. Cut the fat. Smart move.

Very true.

While i still like the 'duds', you can tell there were some lesser quality songs on each record.

But this one is all good, i first thought sm of us was a dud, but i dont mind it now

[Craigels]

my fav at the moment is HHD then Kid but then the next song comes on and then that one is my favorite.

[Sarah]

I always thought there were a few dudes on each TLE album

yeah, there are, Chris, Scott, Andy and Trav!


my fav at the moment is HHD then Kid but then the next song comes on and then that one is my favorite.

Besides the fact I skip HDWK on each listen these days, I feel exactly the same way, they're all so good!

I still remember Elyse at Sydney going on about how awesome this album was gonna be. Sorry Elyse, at the time I didn't believe you, but you were so right!

The other thing I love about this album, is how much the boys love this album too. I know they said the same thing for SOE, but I just didn't believe them! They'd be in interviews going 'yeah, this album is really good', whereas now for WN, they're in interviews going, 'we love this album, we love this song, we want to play it all right now'. :)

[Shadow]

The thing about HHD is that it has that fat groovy riff - I like the song a lot, but I don't think it would work as a single. But I love playing along to it on drums, and yesterday I played the whole album start to finish on drums - Sum Of Us is pretty fun to play, I discovered :D.

[WHITE FALCON]

i think you should head to muso's corner and show us ;)

[Shadow]

i think you should head to muso's corner and show us ;)
I'd love to - I'm killer at Raise The Alarm, HHD, Make The Call, White Noise, and Loaded Gun - but I have no way of recording them :(. Sum of Us is pretty relaxed, I haven't mastered all of the fills or anything, but it's a fun song to groove out to and improvise on. Shame it fades out.

[WHITE FALCON]

a video camera?

[Shadow]

We've got one, but I don't know how to use it and my folks won't let me use it... Go figure :confused:.

[Sabbz]

Dude, do whatever you can to get some vids up! I'd love to see 'em.

[Craigels]

Besides the fact I skip HDWK on each listen these days, I feel exactly the same way, they're all so good!

I occasionally skip HDWK but that's probably cos we got the free download and heard it so much that it's bored its way into my head and i don't need to put the cd in to listen to it.

[Colezy]

I have been playing the album from Moment In The Sun onwards.

White Noise is all I have been hearing lately, I've played the shit out of How Do We Know since last November and I still can't listen to Raise The Alarm too much yet, as much as I love them all.

[Aaron]

White Noise is all I have been hearing lately

I see what you did there.

[Colezy]

Hahaha, even I didn't realise what I'd done!

[Shadow]

Well, Sum Of Us noticed what you did.

[Colezy]

I even got November in that post!! :p

[Shadow]

I even got November in that post!! :p
Haha, shit - I had to go back to check, and you're right! I didn't even notice that one. I concede.

[Wild Turkey]

Well, Sum Of Us noticed what you did.

Haha good one

[Kacky]

Oh, funneh.

[AlinaPOW]

To be honest, I always thought there were a few dudes on each TLE album, but each track on this release is solid. It might because its 11 tracks instead of 14. Cut the fat. Smart move.

I reckon Listen Up Suzy and Live to Love are EASILY album material, shame they didn't get on aswell 'coz then it'd be a longer listen but no matter, atleast we have them!!

[Amur]

listened to it about 8 times now, and cannot decide which songs are my favourites.
Probably - Hey Hey Disbeliever, then Make the Call, Waiting for the Silence, Loaded Gun, Sum of Us...woah,seems I have to list all the songs.they're really great,all of them!
I did like every b-side, too. But except for Hopeless, don't know why. It still sounds like a stranger to me.
Good work on the whole album, it's definetely improved comparing with SOE.They finally got these heavy tunes and it doesn't even sound like a "some other band", which is fantastic in some aspects =)

[Amur]

I reckon Listen Up Suzy and Live to Love are EASILY album material, shame they didn't get on aswell 'coz then it'd be a longer listen but no matter, atleast we have them!!
oh yes, Live to Love could be a good ending for an album, right after Sum of Us. Suzy is a bit oout of conception but it's awesome anyway. Though I'd prefer some b-sides to be on album, just to get a complete impression...without separating "main material" and "exterior material".

[Deadcat Kaye]

Kid has grown on me.
It's really tough lyrically but in a good way.

I'm glad it made the album.

[Wild Turkey]

im sad that live to love didnt make it:(

I live to listen and love that song!

[The Dying Start]

Just add the songs you like the the album. That's what i did!

[Shadow]

Yup, I just added the extra songs as tracks 12 - 18 on my iPod.

[dylanos]

Is it time for an album poll? Best tle album?

[Shadow]

Is it time for an album poll? Best tle album?
Nah, give it some more time I think before we start another poll... which will undoubtedly result in White Noise being on top. The last poll I think had SOE on top followed by either S/T or Roll On, can't remember.

[Wild Turkey]

i dunno wether i could decide on a best album.

Every album has special parts and something different that you cant really judge against each other

[AlinaPOW]

i find it impossible to choose, purely on the basis that i got the eps and the first 3 albums all at roughly the same time, meaning i've loved them for equally the same amount of time... whereas the newcomers as much as they're phenomenal, can't possibly take over... not yet anyway. That made no sense did it??

[The Dying Start]

It sure didn't.

[Matt]

White Noise = 2nd worst album, behind SOE.

Sorry guys, but I'm not liking their new direction much...

[Ben reed]

White Noise = 2nd worst album, behind SOE.

Sorry guys, but I'm not liking their new direction much...

i love white noise and soe!!!!!!!!!
theyre awesome

[Wild Turkey]

i love all of them lol.

[Habibster]

hmm...

I find it weird, SOE has some of my most favourite living end songs on it (Radio, Til the End, NLF) but it would be my least played living end album. I dunno, there's just something about it that makes me go 'skip, skip, skip'. Even after the first few times i listened to it, i found myself skipping a fair few of the songs.

With White Noise however, i haven't skipped many songs yet, and it's been on almost non-stop since i got it about 10 days ago. At the moment it is my favourite Living End album, probably like a fair few people. Having said that though, it is easy to get caught up in the hype and jump on the badwagon.

Even my father, who doesnt like The Living End, but respects them as musicians (He reckons Cheney is one of the best Aussie guitarists going around), has been listening to White Noise fairly constantly, so thats gotta a positive then :p

I think that White Noise has some tracks that could last a fair while, but still have a kind of modern-ish/up to date edge in years to come.

haha some of that probably doesn't make much sense. :p

[falcon94]

anyone else seen the tv ad for white noise?
just saw it then, twas cool!

[TommyGun]

The last 2 albums had both one song i always skip and i dont really like(So What and Nothing Lasts forever.. in my opinion the worst tle tracks). apart from that i love SOE and Modern Art has some great tunes also but i dont like its clean production.
but White Noise has not a single weak track on it :)

wouldnt compare them to roll on and s/t though, because they are too different

[dylanos]

I guess I'm old school in that I got them all the first day they came out and my first love was self titled, many fond memories. I think sometimes you judge an album by how good the times were when you listened to it. self titled was played at like every party and dance I ever went to etc... Musically it's not their best though. I think White Noise is a far more consolidated effort than SOE, cut the crap, 11 songs all good. I though t SOE was a bit too simple and stripped back (I know they wanted it like that but they seemed to hold back some talent) I also think Mod Art is under rated (weak middle/late middle though) and Roll on had some of their best but worst... In time I think I'd rate white noise around 3rd of 5, although it grows by the day.

[AlinaPOW]

It sure didn't.

oh good :rolleyes:

I cannot see myself getting sick of White Noise and that's my main basis for judging it as awesome. Where as SOE... i can only listen to it once at a time, and even though i love all the songs, for some reason it doesn't get pulled out all too often...

[The Dying Start]

I must admit that i don't seem to listen to albums straight through much anymore.

I do have a vast array of B-Side and rarety compilations though and they get a fair burn.

[dylanos]

I agree in that I think for me WN is the first album since self titled that I will probably keep pulling out over the years and feel good about playing the whole album through. The others I find myself skipping songs here and there. I also think this album has the best batch of B sides as a whole too...

[paulvroc]

I cannot see myself getting sick of White Noise and that's my main basis for judging it as awesome. Where as SOE... i can only listen to it once at a time, and even though i love all the songs, for some reason it doesn't get pulled out all too often...

i always used to think that to top SoE would be a huge effort
but i get the feeling that i could listen to white noise for weeks on end without getting sick of it, whereas SoE i enjoyed, but tired of quickly
the 11 tracks this time round has definitely won me over

[The Dying Start]

I find that the 18 tracks is barely long enough!

[WHITE FALCON]

okay i dunno if this is the right place to post this BUT
dylan and i found out something very awesome :)

the end of living underground is EXACTLY the same as teh end of new frontier.
if you wanna hear living underground head to 23rd Precinct and DL it from the clipsal 500 setlist ;) end plug for glenn's site/

haha its aweosme coz they used exactly the same thing!
anyways i just thought i'd say something:)

[Big J.G]

I find that the 18 tracks is barely long enough!

Glemon!

Every track they released is a masterpiece and I never get sick of them.

[dylanos]

Yeh I am super stoked with the 18 so far... While I do think the 11 track thing probably helped, any one of those B sides could have made up 3 more songs to still make an awesome 14 track album

[Kacky]

Got my copy in the mail today! Aweeesssooommmeeee. :D

My mom and I watched the DVD together, surprisingly it worked in our DVD player, hurrah!

[The Dying Start]

end plug for glenn's site/

Keep plugging. You might get something out of it. Like a biscuit or something.

[Marv From NZ]

White Noise is imo TLE's best yet! SURPRISE SURPRISE...

So my order for favourite TLE album goes like this now:

1. White Noise
2. State of Emergency
3. Modern ARTillery
4. Roll On
5. The Living End

WOW... noticing a trend are we? They seem to be getting better as they get older maybe?

[The Dying Start]

That's really interesting Marv(not being sarcastic). Because i could not even comprehend having them in that order!

[Matt]

Yeah, I'm pretty much the EXACT opposite.

ST worst??? BLEHHH

[simonnott]

That's really interesting Marv(not being sarcastic). Because i could not even comprehend having them in that order!

Me too, Self-titled is MY bag, punk-rockabilly with prominent double-bass I'm just hoping that one day TLE will give that genre another go and the result will be the best ever in that sphere. But having said that I love Chris's song writing and really appreciate almost everything they do. This album has grown on me very quickly and I now really like it, BUT self-titled will always be one of my favourite albums of all time.

The other thing I love about TLE, whatever avenues they are exploring at the time, you know that they are still rockers through and through and that will always shine in a live show, as displayed in the free DVD when they interrupt the new material to kick effortlessly into Second Solution.

No band that lasts at the top the time TLE have without varying their content and I love 'em all the more for it

[Ben reed]

white noise
roll on
state of emergency
tle
modern art

thats my order:)

[WHITE FALCON]

mmmm
no comment as yet
but self titled is deffs not last.

[Marv From NZ]

Yeah, I'm pretty much the EXACT opposite.

ST worst??? BLEHHH

That's really interesting Marv(not being sarcastic). Because i could not even comprehend having them in that order!

Me too, Self-titled is MY bag, punk-rockabilly with prominent double-bass I'm just hoping that one day TLE will give that genre another go and the result will be the best ever in that sphere. But having said that I love Chris's song writing and really appreciate almost everything they do. This album has grown on me very quickly and I now really like it, BUT self-titled will always be one of my favourite albums of all time.

The other thing I love about TLE, whatever avenues they are exploring at the time, you know that they are still rockers through and through and that will always shine in a live show, as displayed in the free DVD when they interrupt the new material to kick effortlessly into Second Solution.

No band that lasts at the top the time TLE have without varying their content and I love 'em all the more for it

LOL trust me when i say i really like the ST album. It's just that all of their albums are seriously good, so it can be hard to rate them on an 'officially final' sort of basis thing, but i'm a stubborn person so i'm not gonna let that happen. Whatever feels right to me atm is what i'm gonna give you, so in effect the list can rear its head and be the complete opposite come next Wednesday!

[damo0945]

1. White Noise
2. Modern ARTillery
3. The Living End
4. Roll On
5. State Of Emergency

for me

[lozzamouldy]

1. white noise
1. soe
1. mod art
1. roll on
1, ST

[The Dying Start]

Very clever. I saw what you did there...

[dylanos]

I must say the list is so close you can't really call it but I'd say
1. TLE
2. White Noise (has crept to 2nd, I think I still need time for where it truly sits)
3. Mod Art
4. State of Emergency
5. Roll On

SOE and roll on are actually a tie.. In fact I'd tie all except TLE which is still a notch above.

Best B side album:
1: White Noise
2: TLE
3: State of Emergency
4: Mod Art
5: Roll On

[Wild Turkey]

I must say the list is so close you can't really call it but I'd say
1. TLE
2. White Noise (has crept to 2nd, I think I still need time for where it truly sits)
3. Mod Art
4. State of Emergency
5. Roll On

SOE and roll on are actually a tie.. In fact I'd tie all except TLE which is still a notch above.

Best B side album:
1: White Noise
2: TLE
3: State of Emergency
4: Mod Art
5: Roll On

i dont even know all the b sides from the other albums. this one has heaps.

[Sarah]

I must say the list is so close you can't really call it but I'd say
1. TLE
2. White Noise (has crept to 2nd, I think I still need time for where it truly sits)
3. Mod Art
4. State of Emergency
5. Roll On

SOE and roll on are actually a tie.. In fact I'd tie all except TLE which is still a notch above.

Best B side album:
1: White Noise
2: TLE
3: State of Emergency
4: Mod Art
5: Roll On

I'd have to say my least fav album for b-sides would be SOE. All the others would be equal 1st.

And I always have trouble ranking albums. But I suppose if I was to rank them from the whole album I'd listen to right now, it'd go:
White Noise (a bit biased this one right now!)
Roll On
MA
TLE
SOE.

awww, now I feel bad for SOE :p

[Amur]

White Noise (a bit biased this one right now!)
Roll On
MA
TLE
SOE.

awww, now I feel bad for SOE :p
looks pretty much like my list! and "poor SOE" thing is also one of my thoughts when I try to rank albums. :o
I prefer listen to TLE albums rarely, cause once I've been told something like: "Yana, you always listen to anything you like TOO often, squeezes all the juice out of it, and then there's nothing interesting left there for you, so you just start to ignore that band/album/song."
And that is true, so now I have doubts every time I choose what album to pick - "Do I listen to this one too much or it's ok to play it one more time?".
Yep sounds a bit weird, but maybe someone does the same? And since TLE is my favourite band ever, I listen to them only when I have strong assurance that it's the right time and I have mood for their music.
Eh :cool:

[Sarah]

yeah, I'm the same. I think its almost time to pull White Noise out of my car...I love it too much to ruin it by listening to it every drive i go on!

[Madtwins]

We can't be silent anymore. It's a shame we got White Noise from i-net, but think we can talk about it because friend helped us to purchase a real CD, and we wait now when it arrives by post.

Our impressions are very strong. Grate, mature and interesting album. Better then SOE, and after news about Chris want to leave but overcome this, but felt different strong feelings and shange like a person - this all felt inside songs. The biggest surprise for us was lyrics, especially this fact that we dig in it from the first listening (Olya was listened it in subway, but really understood 70% of meanings). It was very hard before. TLE lyrics for us was always turbid, like young people usually says here :o Also after How Do We Know wa were prepared for changes and new sound and other things, but was wandered how much "old itself" guys keep in this album. So wa can say we dig in album from the first listening and understood that it's wonderfull, amazing, mega cool and it's for long for us.
About songs. Guess we already listened album nearly 40-50 times and from beginning to now some songs became more interesting. But we go in order:

How Do We Know It's ok, but we think QOTSA helped us don't wandering abut such guitar riffs and sound. This song was before album so we, like many others, listened it 300 times, so now, sorry guys we skip it.

Raise The Alarm !!!!!!!! Super! We loved it! It was so nice and sweet when we recognized "who-a who-a!". Luke called to us from mobile phone from some gig and we heard it, and liked it. It was cool to know that it's a powerfull hit. Donno how Luke choosed a moment to call us, but thank him. We wish that it will be the next single, but lyrics disturbed us. Maybe it's to problematic to made a single from such theme.

White Noise Wonderful. This song is one of the best TLE songs ever. It's soft and "girlish" and strong and hard in the same time. Vocal is wonderful. We think voice of Chris is changed with time, but in this song it sounds good! We love it!

Moment In The Sun Liked it very much. It sounds like MA or SOE song for us, very LivingEndish :) Good melody and cool lyrics. Vera liked it very much.

Waiting For The Silence Olya liked it better! It's so magical and melodic, but emotionally in vocals it feels that Chris is very serious and resolute. In this lyrics and melody are very strange and perturbing emotions. Song is super cool. And when I'm listening it I feel like I'm deep inside of music and melody. It's so grate! Thanx TLE!!!!

Make The Call We think Roll On has very hard sounded and smashing songs. So this one was not a surprise fro us. Riffs after second chorus is totally cool!!!! We can't compare this song with any other hard rock or heavy metal bands, because we think them are completely far from TLE way of thinking.

Loaded Gun Awesome! One of the strongest song on album. Lyrics is amazing. Emotions of voice and guitar make a feeling of trouble in the air. We think on this song Andy shows his professional handwriting in the whole perfectness! Guitar riffs is killing! Song is brilliant!

Kid Also very self TLE song. Very interesting and beautifull. But we still don't understand the meaning of lyrics. Guitar solo is powerfull and cool, we liked it so much.

21st Century MEGA!!!! Lyrics is the best! Super hit! Only russian "mat" (coarse language) can express our impression! Pizdec kak ohuenno!

Hey Hey Disbeliever We guess this is the mostly non typical TLE song, especially in sound. This guitar distortion remind us Muse guitar sound. But we like the song, and think it's fine.

Sum Of Us This is very special song. In fact we hate reggae. Can stand it only in Clash interpretation. Never expected such song from TLE. We totally loved it. Maybe this song we love the most from album. It's amazing. Vocal is brilliant!!! And lyrics touched us very deep. it's the problems which we faced every day. This song it's a best portrait of TLE special skills to be new and stay the same. This is the thing why we love them and think they are great band!

We told about some of b-sides before, but want only say that we liked them all, especially Live to love, Beware the moon, Suzy. Hopeless sounds like demo record, but song is ok. We agree with many of you who told that b-sides are too good to be just b-sides :)

So we can say only great great thank you very much for White Noise to all who made it happened. We are happy now, and feels like this is the new album of our old loving local band ;) We really live from music and each album of band we like it's a grate support for our souls in our life. On White Noise we can do alot of things! Now it inspired us to many of them and we guess we keep these tunes in our hearts for years. We are very glad that guys fight all troubles and give to us this big and better part of themselves. We appreciate this so much! It's so good to live when you have such wonderfull music with you!!! We love The Living End, all their fans, and wish to all the best!

[Madtwins]

And our album chart:

1. White noise
2. Modern artillerry
3. Roll on
4. TLE
5. State of emergency

Hmm, this is very hard to make this decision, we like SOE very much, but this is fact, all other albums was stronger.

[Amur]

very nice review, girls!
absolutely agree with your point of view on Waiting for the Silence and Make the Call :)

[Sabbz]

Wow, that was a great read, thanks for writing that.

I agree with so much of what you posted, very good =D

[Madtwins]

We also liked many posts about album here. We glad that people could say so much, not onl - oh, ah it's cool. But we always knew that TLE fans is clever guys :)

[dylanos]

I should mention that I think TLE albums are about the hardest to rank of any band because they are all so close. Every album has some of their best work on it and some less enjoyable songs. My rankings change a lot depending on how long it's been since I listened. I think MA has the most duds but also some of their best. SOE felt held back and could have been more. I need to go through them all again I think...

[worry_rock]

How is S/T so low in the list for a lot of you?? It's definitely my favourite TLE album.

[Marv From NZ]

Well for that album i have to be in the right mood really. Just like say with Against Me!'s Re-inventing Axl Rose album, which is super different from say New Wave or Searching For A Former Clarity, each is fairly unique and all serve its own purpose. Like any "post-punk" band, well for me in this instance, i can only take so much before the whole 3 chord, up-tempo ravaging musicianship gets a little tedious to me. I know that's pigeon holing S/T to some extent and its in no way meant to be bagging the album, but i think we can say that S/T is a raw record which has alot of those afore mentioned elements to it. Heck, even TLE have stated somewhere that they wanted to get away from that label and sound! Now this is where TLE is up there to me, because all of their albums are so different sounding from each other. Whatever mood of music i'm feeling like, any one of TLE's albums 99% of the time get me in the zone and capture what i'm after for that moment and subsequent minute, hour, day and alot of the times, week. Ok i'm gonna shut up now...

[The Dying Start]

Thanx Olya & Vera...it was great to read your thoughts!

[Sarah]

I agree, I was also impressed in your use of such big words...haha, you use bigger english words than I do!

very impressive! (although i'm sure you have a bigger and better word for it :p)

[bringin' it all back home]

Hey, sorry if this has already been asked, or if it's in the wrong thread..
Could someone please tell me or point me in the direction of the meaning of White Noise? My friends Mum wants to know and I'm not the best person to ask. So if you could help, that'd be great. Thanks!

[Sarah]

There's a video all about it:

http://www.take40.com/artists/1339/Living-End,-The/interviews?i=631.0.1

look on the right, 5th one down :)

[AlinaPOW]

woah everyone that said S/T last is nuts!! Personal opinion, i know i know...

1. S/T
2. Roll On
3. White Noise
4. Modern Art
5. SoE

I see we're ignoring the eps...

[Wild Turkey]

1: White Noise, The Living End, Roll On

2:Modern ART, State Of Emergency

3: Hellbound, Its For Your Own Good

4:From Here On In (Alread had the songs dont need it really, i like the cover though lol)

[bringin' it all back home]

Thanks for that Sarah!
You've saved my butt!

[Craigels]

SOE is great but it only has 5 or 6 songs that i listen to and i just skip the rest (but they're all still good in themselves)

my list is:
1: WN
2: S/T
3: RO
4: MA
5: SOE

They're all VERY close so all on #1 would be suitable for me, but it keeps changing every time I put a new album in my cd player.
If EP's were included it would go:
1: Hellbound
2:IFYOG
etc
etc


Kid Also very self TLE song. Very interesting and beautifull. But we still don't understand the meaning of lyrics. Guitar solo is powerfull and cool, we liked it so much.

IMO the meaning is about child abuse

[Shadow]

My album order is something like this:

White Noise
Roll On
State Of Emergency
S/T
Modern Artillery

[Ben reed]

hey has anyone noticed in the white noise lyrics booklet thingo it says thanks to the forums people!
its in the thank u section
"to all the mag that support us, the forum people, the fans, you

thats mad!

[Deadcat Kaye]

Too Slow..We already know :p

[Ben reed]

oh...:(
i thought i was special but apparently not...

[Deadcat Kaye]

You are Special.. in your own, unique way

[Ben reed]

danggggggg right!
:D

[Kacky]

Argh, they love us. :D

[Madtwins]

I agree, I was also impressed in your use of such big words...haha, you use bigger english words than I do!

very impressive! (although i'm sure you have a bigger and better word for it :p)

Thanx Sara and Glenn. All taht we said is true. We don't want to say that our life is bad, but it's not very easy and luxurious. Music was always big support for us from 13-14 years i guess, and bands that we really love are like a fellows who walk with you on your lonely road. Sometimes we think tahat our good times goes from album to album of bands that we love. It's happines that we are friends with one of them ( we mean our local heroes Mad Heads(XL)), they like a family for us.
We think it's a dangerous and not right to allow that something had so big meaning and influence on you in your life, but if it's make you happy who said it's bad? We don't know why rock music influence is so strong in our life, we are not a musicans, but it giver to us more that the other things and even people. The Living End became one of the favourite bands for us, so we like to talk about them and don't avaricious for compliments ;)

[Madtwins]

hey has anyone noticed in the white noise lyrics booklet thingo it says thanks to the forums people!
its in the thank u section
"to all the mag that support us, the forum people, the fans, you

thats mad!

:eek: Super! We still don't get a CD so we don't know about it. It's very pleasant.

[funnyboy88]

1. Roll On
2. White Noise
3. State of Emergency
4. The Living End
5. Modern Artillery

I doubt any other TLE fan has this order. But they are all closer in ranking than it appears. TLE have very consistent levels in quality.

[matt6n]

Don't if this has been talked about or not but...

At the start of MITS does anyone know what is said before the verse starts?
"something something tomorrow... something something place" ??
I can't make it out but I have pretty average hearing..

[mattheal]

its just the lyrics from the bridge being spoken by chris

"This is the right time, This is the right place"

[dylanos]

I think in album comparisons, you're either old school or new school..simple as that. Whichever album got you interested in TLE is probably going to rate your highest or at least 2nd. As for me...I'm old school... self titled has never been beaten in sales and still has a large proportion of songs in their general live show.

[AlinaPOW]

its just the lyrics from the bridge being spoken by chris

"This is the right time, This is the right place"

I love that so much. Its a little bit chilling actually, in a really good way... i'm not sure how to articulate that :p

[mattheal]

yeah at first i wasnt sure if i actually heard it, but then the next time you hear it really clearly and its like woah!

[Colezy]

I hear ya, Alina!! I love it too. :)

Dylan (I take it that that is your name? :p) - I agree. My first ever CD was S/T and I love it to bits and I am loving White Noise atm too, I think they're both equal for me. But then there are times when I am completely in love with Roll On and sometimes MA! :rolleyes:

[Kacky]

Did anyone else notice a typo in the middle of all the 'White Noise' artwork?

Loneliness is spelt lonliness. :p I'm so observant, aha.

[damo0945]

no...good find i guess

I'm also a big fan of the words at the start of MITS

[dylanos]

Yeh I must admit that I think at some stage every TLE album has been a favourite or very close to...In the end it just shows that they are a consistantly brilliant band. Most bands have duds and hits but they are so consistant...although I get the impression that MA is considered by the people closest in and around TLE is the worst..but I think that had to do with the change of direction.

And yes my name is dylan.

[Colezy]

I like a lot of the songs from MA, I just don't think that they fit together as an album very well.

[Wild Turkey]

I like a lot of the songs from MA, I just don't think that they fit together as an album very well.

Yer the album has to actually feel like an album.

i reakon white noise fits together nicely.

But Roll on for me fits together the best IMO, it just fits great i dnno why

[The Dying Start]

Self Titled fits like a favourite pair of undies.

[Wild Turkey]

Self Titled fits like a favourite pair of undies.

NA... thats not the way too go..

Roll on fits like no undies.... that makes no sence at all lol :D

[Marv From NZ]

You make no sense at all...

[The Dying Start]

Can't spell for shit either...

[Wild Turkey]

Can't spell for shit either...

Thank :) Bitch

[Matt_to_the_End]

I havent got any of the other albums...(yet!) but most of White Noise is kinda a let down, Kid and that last song (the reggae one) suck big time. But I think Kid has a good solo? 21st Century has bad lyrics (Global warming isnt cool...thats some cringe worthy lyrics right there) but has a great solo.

Meh, Like most bands these day's..conforming.

[Wild Turkey]

I havent got any of the other albums...(yet!) but most of White Noise is kinda a let down, Kid and that last song (the reggae one) suck big time. But I think Kid has a good solo? 21st Century has bad lyrics (Global warming isnt cool...thats some cringe worthy lyrics right there) but has a great solo.

Meh, Like most bands these day's..conforming.

Kid is great didnt like it much at first but love it now really grew on me!
Its such a good pop song thats actually pretty dark, if it means what i think it does.

Sum of is is different, but still ok

[dylanos]

WN is a total grower album... looking back..I had to give SOE as much chance as possible to grow but I always felt it never quite got there... WN has got there for me... Kid is my least favourite track but its still all good. If I were to recommend 2 albums to buy it would be TLE and WN...

[Wild Turkey]

WN is a total grower album... looking back..I had to give SOE as much chance as possible to grow but I always felt it never quite got there... WN has got there for me... Kid is my least favourite track but its still all good. If I were to recommend 2 albums to buy it would be TLE and WN...

Yer same... or just buy all of them... and the dvds.... and eps.... and EVERYTHING.

Lol i see what you mean though... roll on would be a close third to buy, it still fits together bst as an album in my eyes, but that doesnt mean its the best

[All_torn_down16]

My mum works at a nursing home and she said that the other day, the TV in the room some of the residents were in, was on Video Hits (or something similar) and that the White Noise video clip came on. All the residents just sat and watched it. Apparently none of them complaned so the elderly must like White Noise!

I just had to write that because it made me crack up :D

[Kacky]

My mom was caught singing White Noise at her work. She was walking down the hallway singing it and someone she knew walked by her. :p

[All_torn_down16]

My mum told me that the HDWK? riff sounds like a dentist drill :mad:!

As you can see she isn't much of a TLE fan...except when I catch her singing WER!

[Kacky]

My mom is all "YAY, TLE!". :p

[All_torn_down16]

Now, now, no need to rub it in! We don't all have TLE loving parents Chelsea :D

Anyway, now we're getting way off topic. So...WFTS I'm loving at the moment. At first I wasn't really into it, but now it's one of my favourites.

[Kacky]

I absolutely LOVE the string addition to Waiting For The Silence. It's beautiful, and it fits the song so well.

[All_torn_down16]

I know! Gotta love when bands put strings in, always makes a song sound beautiful or emotional.

With WFTS, I couldn't get into the melody at first but now I think it's great. But I think all of WN is great really :)

[Wild Turkey]

I know its the best song isn't it. I love it, and the strings jut make it

[All_torn_down16]

Yeah, one of the best. Do you have any other favourites on the album right now?

[Colezy]

One More Cell just came started playing on my iPod, and for a moment, the intro reminded me of Moment In The Sun. Weird.

[Wild Turkey]

I love albums that just fit together.
For me and album must fit together, i love albums like this.
Albums with a whole heap of random songs sort of annoy me, they can still have some amazing songs on them but just dont fit.
Here is my rankings of the Living End Albums In Turms of fitting together... and by no means do i actually like the albums in this order.

5. State Of Emergency

This album has some of my fav living end songs on it, tIL THE END, Wake Up, We Want More, Into the red and even nothing lasts forever.
But by no means does that mean it fits together at all!
The Album Just doesn't seem to fit to me...
It has no direction and seems to justget lost.

Fit Together Mark
4/10


4. Modern ARTillery

This album goes off in somany different directions its not funny.
So What... Short Notice.... The Room....In The End....Hold Up
The album explores like 47 differnet musical styles...
it has some fantastic songs, and its great too see the living end
Explore all different areas.... but it just doesnt fit....
and even The Living End themselves admit this is not their best work

Fit Together Mark
5/10


3. The Living End

This album is amazing.
The Living ends self titeld debut blew everyone (haha) out of the water.
Its Unique sound will help it remain One of Australias Greatest Ever Debut Album.
It Fits together great.... From the amazing prisoner to the rocking closing in (stramentel)

Fit Together Mark 8/10


2. White Nosie

The Living Ends Latest offering is a fantastic listen.
It just bursts out of the speakers and you fall in love with it instantly.
Its Just A bunch Of amazing songs stuck together....
And they surprizingly fit together quite well.
Some might say its the modern ARTillary that they always intended
I dunno wether i would say that though.

Fit Together Mark 9/10


1. Roll On

Number 1.... ROLL ON ROLL ON ROLL ON
Has there ever been a better album of pure aussie pub rock.
The answer is no... there has not.
This album is amazin... it just fits.
Every single song on there deserves its place... the tracklisting
couldn't be any better. Every song you just wanna scream along too.
Silent Victory sounds a hell of alot like An AC/DC song.
Roll on is an absoloute classic, Roll on And uncle harry to this day
Remains a crowd fav to this day.
And The Transitions From Song To Song (eg. SATL - CMH) Dont Seem Forced At all
Its and amazing album and works together fantasticly.
If you Have never listend too it all the way through... Why are you on this board :D... But seriously... DO IT.

Fit Together Mark 10/10

This is just my opinion... dont hate me for it.

[Wild Turkey]

What the hell whereis everyone? these forums have been quiet for days.

I thought everyone would have caught on to the .au thing by now.

Only took me a day

[Colezy]

Maybe some people actually have a life outside of this forum? :p

[All_torn_down16]

I thought everyone would have caught on to the .au thing by now.

Only took me a day

Some untechnological people like me have to ask someone to find it out :D

So it does take a while to know!

[The Dying Start]

I checked early on and it didn't work, so I didn't bother trying again because I was waiting for Woody to sort it. The lack of peeps on the temp board, and the fact I was receiving Spam notifications alerted me to the fact this was up again!

[Shadow]

Maybe some people actually have a life outside of this forum? :p
I'm disturbingly inactive due to a school production that i'm the stage manager for, and also had FreeZA comittments last week! I'll be back though, dammit.

[Sarah]

and the fact I was receiving Spam notifications alerted me to the fact this was up again!


ahh, so the spam is useful for something then?!

[Deadcat Kaye]

Maybe some people actually have a life outside of this forum? :p

out....side:confused: :eek:

[Colezy]

I know! I was just as shocked to discover that there is another life out there!

[Monkey]

I know! I was just as shocked to discover that there is another life out there!

I went outside today. I didn't like it. Nicole, please don't suggest such terrible things again...or I will post you some of Shannon's sauce! (for your nuggets ;))

[Colezy]

Hahaha, I want the nuggets minus any sauce thanks :p

You guys don't know how bad I was craving maccas after all that, ESPECIALLY after the picture msg. And NO, not because Shannon was in it :p (sorry dude haha)

[The Dying Start]

ahh, so the spam is useful for something then?!

You could potentially say that.

[Kacky]

I put my WN CD in the CD player today to listen, and I couldn't hear the strings in Waiting For The Silence. Silly CD player.

Lol @ mom singing How Do We Know? and White Noise. :p

[The Dying Start]

My old man sings Prisoner Of Society, which is a bit of a stretch by anyones standards.

[Deadcat Kaye]

I would trade my Stray Cats ticket JUST to see my dad sing a TLE song. :p

[Craigels]

My dad sings Roll On but it usually turns into a parody about painting.

[white_noise]

Hahaha, I want the nuggets minus any sauce thanks :p

You guys don't know how bad I was craving maccas after all that, ESPECIALLY after the picture msg. And NO, not because Shannon was in it :p (sorry dude haha)

No Quarter pounder to offer you here sorry Nicole!

If you ask me nicley though I might give you a soft serve!

[Wild Turkey]

My dad sings Roll On but it usually turns into a parody about painting.

Haha when my friends sing it it becomes the music for an add for roll on deoderant. They pretend everyone is singing it and utting it on at the same time

[lozzamouldy]

my mum isnt that cool

she sings myley syrus (urgh) and gets the words horribly wrong.

my bro gets the TLE words wrong though

[Sabbz]

my mum isnt that cool

she sings myley syrus (urgh) and gets the words horribly wrong.

my bro gets the TLE words wrong thoughAnd surely you know the correct words off by heart, am I right? =P

[lozzamouldy]

for TLE

every one.

[Caity]

I <3 Miley Cyrus.

[Colezy]

No Quarter pounder to offer you here sorry Nicole!

If you ask me nicley though I might give you a soft serve!
Good lord.


I think i'll pass :p

[Kacky]

I <3 Miley Cyrus.

I'll admit it...7 Things is fun to play on guitar. :p

[Kacky]

My dad sings Roll On but it usually turns into a parody about painting.

My mom sings Roll On too...lolz.

[The Dying Start]

No Quarter pounder to offer you here sorry Nicole!

If you ask me nicley though I might give you a soft serve!

I'm happy to offer Nicole my quarter pounder...if she thinks she can handle it.

[Craigels]

Some stupid pointless thing that I noticed:

This is the only album not to have the TLE symbol (bass, guitar and drum) and the album number on it.

[Sarah]

it has the symbol on it, see the big green head...

[Caity]

Loneliness is also spelt wrong - 'lonliness'

[The Dying Start]

Nice catch...hadn't really paid enough attention. Maybe it was designed by Luke Spense?!! :p

[Colezy]

Chelsea pointed out that typo last week sometime :p

it has the symbol on it, see the big green head...
Huh?

I have no idea if you're being serious. :p

I hope not!

[Kacky]

Yeah, I pointed that out ages ago. Seeeeee? (http://thelivingend.com.au/vBforum/showpost.php?p=180750&postcount=1349) :p
Yeah, the bass, guitar and drum logo is on the green head, I saw that too. :p

[The Dying Start]

Chelsea pointed out that typo last week sometime :p


Huh?

I have no idea if you're being serious. :p

I hope not!

Have a bloody look, fezz! It's obn the green head!

[Kacky]

Yus!

21st Century is so hot. Mmm, accentage.

[Sarah]

Look, I know most of you on here don't like 21st Century that much, but it's probably one of my favs at the moment!

[Colezy]

I loooove 21st century :D


And I still can't see the logo on the green head. Stop mucking me around :p

[mattheal]

dont worry nicole, i cant see it either :o

[Neo]

I can see the logo. its in the hair part above the eyebrow. its black and little
it also has the hand shake thing that was my old schools logo. lol

[mattheal]

i swear to god there is no TLE logo there on mine

[Colezy]

Same. Glad I'm not the only one!!

[white_noise]

Do you have the DVD version???

on the final page of the fold up cover it should be on the left side of the big green (george bush??) face

[Colezy]

Yeah, I've got that one too..will go and check it.

[mattheal]

Do you have the DVD version???

on the final page of the fold up cover it should be on the left side of the big green (george bush??) face

ive got the japan version only, cos the dvd one STILL HASN'T ARRIVED!!!!!

[Colezy]

Yeah, I see it now!! haha

So the normal version doesn't have it, it seems. I had the dvd version stashed away with my other TLE cd's and the normal one out with my CD player so I just grabbed that when people mentioned it.

[mattheal]

uh that would be right, ill just wait till my dvd one shows up, when jb's re-sends one :(

[Neo]

on the normal one, does it have like a 'tle 5' thing or something on it? you know how like SOE had tle4 and mod.art had 3 in a box and roll on had living 2 (i think).

[Colezy]

I think that someone said they didn't have that on this one..I haven't looked tho.

[mattheal]

on the normal one, does it have like a 'tle 5' thing or something on it? you know how like SOE had tle4 and mod.art had 3 in a box and roll on had living 2 (i think).

mine doesnt, but its the japan version so im not really that suprised that its different

[dylanos]

I was going to start a new thread but I guess it can go in here...

We're up to album number 5 now... how many do we think are left? I predict album 7 will be the last... 6 will come in a couple of years with a break till the 7th...or maybe a break after this and then 2 more. An EP could also be in the mix too...

[Wild Turkey]

I dont want to think about how many are left.

[mattheal]

yeah optimsim is the best, i propose at least 10 albums :p

[The Dying Start]

Way to kill the mood.

[Wild Turkey]

Yer good one now im sad

[Craigels]

I prefer not to think about but I do get the feeling that it could be nearing the end. I'd like to hope they go for as long as AC/DC, The Rolling Stones etc, maybe not quite THAT long.

[Sarah]

seeing the boys play is one of my favourite things.

but, I've been thinking lately that it wouldn't be the end of the world if they started doing solo stuff, bigger side projects, etc. especially now, as they seem to finally have an album they are truely proud of.

[Big J.G]

i honestly dont see an end in sight.

Obviously The Band will be no more in 50+ years.

[b_urself]

i honestly dont see an end in sight.

Obviously The Band will be no more in 50+ years.

ur kidding! think of modern medicine advances.. you and i are gunna live foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Colezy]

At first I thought I was about to see an ad for TLE, but it was just White Noise being used for an Olympics promo! :)

[WHITE FALCON]

omg you suck nicole i was about to post this but i couldnt find obscure reffecnt thing

[Colezy]

Yeah, I cbf searching for that thread :p

[Big J.G]

you couldn't be fucked saying couldn't be fucked so you said cbf


LAZY!

[Colezy]

So what. No different to typing TLE instead of The Living End.

[Big J.G]

i wasnt giving you shit. I was making a joke.

Me and my friends actually say CBF in real life talking. We got so many abbreviations/nick names:

DC = Dirty Cunt
Crow from Asia = Croatian
Sped = Spastic
PS = Plastic Surgery
CBF = Can't Be Fucked
Siberian = Serbian

there are a few more that i cbf naming.

[WHITE FALCON]

oh man you're so cool.
i wish i had cool abbrevations like you :)

i only have one for you in life

BL

hahah bad luck

[Colezy]

Yeah well, crap joke, Big Evil J.G :p

[mel_bound]

Whoa, Serbia and Siberia are completely different places and political climates :rolleyes:

[The Dying Start]

Hahahaha Mel said "political climates"!

[WHITE FALCON]

i dont get it?

[Lowee]

I'm happy to offer Nicole my quarter pounder...if she thinks she can handle it.

I couldn't resist, this chain of conversation has broken my posting ceasefire.

[WHITE FALCON]

hahahah on such a great note too :)

[dylanos]

sorry to kill the mood... it was just something that popped in my head. I hope for the best too... I guess its a measure of success so as long as we keep supporting them, the better chance of seeing another 50 albums...

[Sarah]

I couldn't resist, this chain of conversation has broken my posting ceasefire.

so why did you stop posting in the first place - you're posts where always of such high quality!

and, you've moved to Hobart I see! And just round the corner from me (i'm in Lenah Valley) - how exciting for you!! :p

[Colezy]

I got a PM from the lovely Lowee today! I miss ya dude :p

[Sarah]

:( i didn't get a pm!

[Wild Turkey]

I didnt get a PM either! :(

[Colezy]

*feels special* :p

[Big J.G]

Lowee? Who's Lowee?

[Colezy]

Old forumer.

[The Dying Start]

I got PMS from Lowee. Who knew it was contagious?!

[Wild Turkey]

After hving the album for awhile now i have decided to list the best song off the album.

IMO the best song is.... Waiting for the silence.

Was a very hard choise but is just amazing

[Sabbz]

You know what... I might have to agree with you. It's so hard to choose, WFTS is definately a classic though.

It kinder gives me a Staring At The Light vibe, which is one of my favourite TLE songs.

[Ben reed]

yeah i agree with both of you!
great song

[Wild Turkey]

You know what... I might have to agree with you. It's so hard to choose, WFTS is definately a classic though.

It kinder gives me a Staring At The Light vibe, which is one of my favourite TLE songs.

Yes I agree with you 100%

Reminds me of stairing at the light so much.

WHICK I ALSO LOVE TOO

[atomgal]

I'm still mentally processing the album, so I'm not quite ready yet to do a review, but I did want to say that first off, I am SO HAPPY to have new TLE to listen to. It's been way too long!

My overall first impression is that the music is excellent, but I think the lyrics leave a bit to be desired. I think some people have already commented to that effect. One friend of mine thought that maybe they were rushing, because this album was recorded so quickly. Actually, considering how fast they were in and out of the studio, this record is a damn impressive feat!!

I wish I could comment more on B-sides, but it's been a bitch to find them here in the States. (iTunes is not cooperating...) I've heard Suzy and love it, though! I hope that one can become a live staple, because I can just imagine how fun that would be at a show. I'm starting to ramble, so I'll stop here. Just wanted to throw my two cents in.

[Big J.G]

The US STILL dont have them? Damn, some people are very reigonist.

Cant you just change the reigon to Australia?

Anyway, if you can't find them, try clicking these links (these should lead to the item in the iTunes tore.)

CIA: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=283405236&id=283405200&s=143460
She's Calling Out: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=283578522&id=283578510&s=143460

[paulvroc]

i'd have to say, after giving both the B-sides and the album an equal amount of listening...
i love the album, and think that the B-sides are good enough to be on an album of their own
waiting for the silence, loaded gun, raise the alarm and how do we know are my favourites
the lyrics are...good, i won't comment to much on them. but vocally, i think this is chris's best achievement...WFTS shows that, its incredible

having said all of that, i'm still listening to the album heaps, as well as the B-sides
i'll withold my ultimate judgement and favourite song until after a few more months :p

[The Dying Start]

See you in October! :p

[mel_bound]

Look at the movie question!

clicky (http://i35.tinypic.com/53p7gx.jpg)

[Deadcat Kaye]

Whooaaaaa!

Weird but epic.

[Colezy]

Haha, cool.

I scanned that :p Looks like those girly mags come in handy sometimes :p

[mattheal]

haha burning his brothers face with an oxy torch!!!! :D

[Kacky]

Brotherly love.

[Wild Turkey]

Thats so weird haha i have heard of that film.

I kind of wanna see it now, i think its only a straight to DVD film but after all.... It is andy recomended :D

I was also wondering what people this about the meanings of the songs on the album.

Some are pretty obvious, like loaded gun... but what do people think about the other songs.

Im interested in waiting for the silence in particular

[The Dying Start]

It's about being dragged along by and idiot friend to a screamo gig. And you just stand there waiting for the silence all night long.

[WHITE FALCON]

hahahah i think not :)
but most of them are fairly straight forward

[Colezy]

I think that WFTS is about the period of time leading up to/waiting for that moment when someone (probably Chris) was 'waiting for the smoke to clear' and when he finally 'surrendered' and things will start to look up for them as a band again. About them waiting for it to all end and go back to 'how it was last year'.

'I can't live without the attention
I feel lost, got no direction'

To me, that is the leading up to that moment thing that I said before. I think that Chris realised that (how he truly felt) and then he surrendered what he was doing, picked up the guitar again and then BAM! along came the HDWK riff! haha

'When all of the boys were making their noise' - Chris/Scott/Andy
'And the girls were trying hard to pretend' - their wives?
'We had it all back then' - pre-chris-losing-the-plot-and-not-knowing-what-he-wanted-to-do :p
'Now we're waiting for the silence to end' - how it felt during the time off from the band



That's just my opinion, but I've always sucked at interpreting the meanings of songs. That's probably why I nearly failed English in yr 11 :p

[Neo]

to me WftS is the realisation after MitS :p

[Colezy]

Yeah. thats pretty much what i was trying to say haha.

[Wild Turkey]

Thats a very good thery colzey.
I like it alot.

And i do agreewith how it is the realisation after moment in the sun.

Id love it if the living end made an album that was all conected. How good would that be

[WHITE FALCON]

wow
nicole niceee
i would of given you a B+ for that effort :)

[Colezy]

That's better than what my teacher gave me :p

[Kacky]

Nicole, A++++++.

[The Dying Start]

Terrible effort. Report to the principal's office for a good caining.

[Neo]

that reminds me of ebay.

good communication, fast postage, excellent forumer A++++++++++.

[Colezy]

Only if you're the principal, Glenn ;)

[The Dying Start]

You bloody bet i am.

[Wild Turkey]

i hate principles!

My school used to have the Cain!!

We would get spankings.

Do you offer spankings glenn?

[The Dying Start]

There are so many things wrong with that post that my brain just deflated.

[Wild Turkey]

Good Mission acomplished then.

I fucked the principle

[Neo]

principle:
a basic generalization that is accepted as true and that can be used as a basis for reasoning or conduct.

[Colezy]

The principal is your pal!!

[Wild Turkey]

The Principle Is Your Lover!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Colezy]

Well mine is, cos my principal is Glenn!

[Wild Turkey]

Oh really sounds very sausy haha

[The Dying Start]

Or even saucy.

[WHITE FALCON]

or even source-y :)

[Wild Turkey]

Haha

I would take sausy over saucy any day.

Its so much sausyer that wayHaha

[Habibster]

Fuck you're lame. ;)

[WHITE FALCON]

2nd that:)

[The Dying Start]

I won't bother thirding it.

[Wild Turkey]

Haha you dont have to tell me im lame

[atomgal]

Okay, so moving on... ;)

The US STILL dont have them? Damn, some people are very reigonist.

Cant you just change the reigon to Australia?

Anyway, if you can't find them, try clicking these links (these should lead to the item in the iTunes tore.)

CIA: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=283405236&id=283405200&s=143460
She's Calling Out: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=283578522&id=283578510&s=143460

Thanks! But for some reason the links don't work for me. :(

As for iTunes, my friend (who is very tech savvy, unlike me) helped me with it, and we could change the region, but it wouldn't actually let us make a purchase. Very frustrating...

[Kacky]

That's why I don't use iTunes! :p

[WHITE FALCON]

has everyone heard the full how do we know demo
its on their facebook?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Living-End/5350004802


EDIT: hmmm it only gives me 8 seconds of it now? :o

[mattheal]

i like the solo and outro in the demo better, probably because i over listend to the album version when triple j put it out

[WHITE FALCON]

does anyone else know how to rip this ?

[mattheal]

what my REALLY shit rip wasnt good enough for you arin?

[Big J.G]

Anyone got Hypercam or something? Just convert that video to Audio and walah.

I got the shitty CamStudio, in which my speakers act as Microphones.