Tracks for singer/songwriters

[robinsnestrecording]

I have recorded tracks for many singer songwriters who didnt have a band. You can get cd quality demos recorded with me very affordably. Just send me a simple recording of your song (piano and voice, guitar and voice, or just voice if you dont play an instrument) tell me what style you want it in. I can provide the following: Bass, drums, guitar (acoustic or electric), keyboards (piano, synth sounds, etc), mandolin, vocals if needed. I have recorded tracks for other studios that did not have the means to capture drums. I can send you individual tracks for you to add your vocal to at another studio. I can also mix and master your song and send you the finished version on cd.
I am very affordable. $25.00 per track per song ( in other words, bass, drums, and guitar would cost a total of $75.00 for the unmixed tracks sent to you)
Mixing is $50.00 per song
Mastering is $25.00 per song
Contact me at: Robinsnestrecording@yahoo.com
You can hear examples of my work at www.myspace.com/robinsnestrecording
Two songs are from a local hardcore band that I recorded called Cataract's Fall.
Two songs are from a project of mine called splendor.

[Billyasd]

Wait, so you play all the instruments on the recording?

is this just for people who don't have the ability to play any intruments, and you're going to do all the work on the song apart from the vocals? So it'd be like an N*SYNC type project?

[Billyasd]

That's a massive rip, for four tracks, especially if YOU are recording the parts for three of them. $75? I ASK YOU!

[Evil Chris]

Do Have Any Idea how much it costs to make an album?

[mel_bound]

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[thelivingvines]

I would do the same thing for about a tenth of that. What a fucking rip. Things like this really piss me off. All sounds shit anyway.

[Neo]

I would do all that for free!! so ner beat that :p

[thelivingvines]

course i would do it for free because i enjoy it. It insults me that people have to come to places like this and do that though.

[Sammas]

course i would do it for free because i enjoy it. It insults me that people have to come to places like this and do that though.

Why? There are producers and musicians that get paid upwards of $300 an hour to do it day in, day out.

[hillaas]

But the stuff he/she would do would probably be studio quality. This would probably be a job and if you have ever gone into a studio to record you will probably find that this is actually a much cheaper option for an amatuer muso. And this would probably be better quality than a garage edit that you guys would do. They are probably a free lance mixer and are finding it hard to get a cut so give em a bit of slack.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

My friends recorded their demo sound in a hallway ala Deep Purple and it sounded fine to me.

I just wouldnt take the risk of using that guy cos I have enough friends willing to do it for me when they have a bit of free time

[Sammas]

But the stuff he/she would do would probably be studio quality. This would probably be a job and if you have ever gone into a studio to record you will probably find that this is actually a much cheaper option for an amatuer muso. And this would probably be better quality than a garage edit that you guys would do. They are probably a free lance mixer and are finding it hard to get a cut so give em a bit of slack.

This guy isn't offering the same thing as a recording session in a studio. He is offering to produce a track of music. There is a big difference. People who do it for free probably provide a final product that isn't worth paying for (no offence intended, but anything worth doing in the music industry is worth paying for, and worth being paid for).

A producer organises, writes and arranges instruments that fall outside the band or musicians forte. Like for instance, a rock band that wants a brass ensemble to play on a track, or a singer/acoustic guitarist that wants a chamber orchestra and backing band on a track. Even for someone who claims that they can play a variety of instruments, at the end of the day they don't have the talent or ability compared to a musician who has spent a lifetime mastering just their one instrument of choice. For this reason alone I wouldn't pay a single guy $25 a track to record every instrument... it is cheap and nasty and definately a good indicator of the final quality (or lack there of). But people are bound by financial restraints, some might only be able to afford $25 per track, while others could have a budget big enough to hire the Sydney Symphony Orchestra and the Opera House (thats a whooole lot more than $25).

To have a professional quality album you need professional quality musicians. The better the musicians, the better the final performance caught on tape. Some people acknowledge this so much that they might write a piece of music but not play on it, like a songwriter or a composer and even some producers. Its very common for larger scale stuff like big band jazz, etc.

If you want the best, you need the best. There are ways of getting quality results for similar prices as this guy is offering, but it requires quite a lot of leg work.

[Neo]

Do Have Any Idea how much it costs to make an album?
The cost of making an album has hardly anyhting to do with what this guy is offering. All he is doing is offering to record tracks for shitbrain prices to send to you to add vocals and stuff and then once it's all together, that's when the album costs come in. so your basically paying for the album but you have his stupid prices to pay on top of that. Any smart singer/songwriter would just hire session muso's to do it all and it would cost less, and you will know you have quality music being produced rather than sending some stuff to some random in hope it will turn out the way you want it.

[Sammas]

The cost of making an album has hardly anyhting to do with what this guy is offering. All he is doing is offering to record tracks for shitbrain prices to send to you to add vocals and stuff and then once it's all together, that's when the album costs come in. so your basically paying for the album but you have his stupid prices to pay on top of that. Any smart singer/songwriter would just hire session muso's to do it all and it would cost less, and you will know you have quality music being produced rather than sending some stuff to some random in hope it will turn out the way you want it.


He is offering a complete piece of music, but you have to provide him with your own parts (like the vocals if you are a singer).

You can track the vocals for maybe 10 songs in a day in the studio. If you hire your own studio musicians you are looking at completely only about 2 songs a day. Thats four extra days at about $500 a pop for the studio plus expenses for studio musicians. You are looking at a whole lot more than $25 a track if you hire your own... plus you gotta know what to do with them. If the singer/songwriter doesn't know how to arrange music you have the added cost of a producer anyway. Just like poor musicians make poor recordings, poor arrangement makes terrible music.

[Billyasd]

Any musician who wants to pay someone to write and record music needs to think about how musical they really are.

If someone wants to record their songs (including melody, harmony, vocals, tempo etc.) for 500 bucks a track, in a good studio, with good quality equipment, then I can dig it.

But if someone wants to get a guy to record an instrumental so he can send it to you, you can record your vocals on it and he can master it for 500 bucks a track, I just don't see the fun in it.

It's pretty much paying someone to make music for you.

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[Disease]

^^ I agree. I'd rather hedge my bets and record in my home studio.

[Sammas]

Any musician who wants to pay someone to write and record music needs to think about how musical they really are.


You mean like how Norah Jones paid Arif Mardin big dollars to arrange some of her songs?

Or how people like Mark Trombina & Nick Launay take a decent chunk of album sales from TLE because they (TLE) hired them to finalise the arrangement and aesthetic of an album?

Or how the Beatles hired George Martin to finalise the arrangement on every album they did between 1962 and 1969?

Or how the Sydney Symphony Orchestra commission people for quite a lot of money to write music for the orchestra to play?

Thats a rather niave statement. Almost as niave as thinking you can do every aspect of the writing/recording process by yourself and achieve professional results.

[Jawn]

Or how the Beatles hired George Martin to finalise the arrangement on every album they did between 1962 and 1969?

I'm glad you didn't mention Phil Spector :p


I'm sure a lot of people would wish Tambaland charged 25 per track for his work.

[Sammas]

I'm glad you didn't mention Phil Spector :p


I'm sure a lot of people would wish Tambaland charged 25 per track for his work.

hah :D You might have to chip in and help out with his $1 million dollar bail if you want him to produce anything for you...

I wouldn't pay this guy $25 to bath my dog, but that doesn't discredit the fact that most people acknowledge that they can achieve a better final product through people with specialized talents.