Time Signature

[F#m7sus4]

hey umm im doing a music assignment for school on aussie music and yes i chose to do tle but im just wondering what time signature prisoner of society is im pretty sure its 4 4 but some sections throw me off well thanks

[Disease]

Yes. It is in 4/4.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Are there any TLE songs which arent 4/4 lol?

Or at least arent predominantly 4/4?

[hillaas]

4/4 4 sure.

And btw, i likt your name F#m7sus4 very much!! Keep posting here cos i like you already!

[mel_bound]

Are there any TLE songs which arent 4/4 lol?

Or at least arent predominantly 4/4?
We Want More and Reborn are in 12/8... some of Closing In is 7/8...

[Kevin]

And btw, i likt your name F#m7sus4 very much!! Keep posting here cos i like you already!

man love alert :p

most rock'n'roll is in 4/4, you don't have to think too much, and it sounds awesome :p

[Disease]

We Want More and Reborn are in 12/8...

Could just be 4/4 with a swing..

[Lutman]

We Want More and Reborn are in 12/8...
They're in 4/4.

[Loo C]

Nope. 12/8. You can hear it.....and the tab book says so. :)

[mel_bound]

They're in 4/4.

In the SOE tab books they are written in 12/8.

[Lutman]

Hmm maybe it was just easier to put to sheet music in 12/8, but I'm sure The Living End keep time to 4/4 when playing it.

[Sammas]

It is easy to hear it that way. A bar in 12/8 is four lots of three quavers. You could hear it as a 4/4 bar playing triplets or three 4/4 bars. It all has to do with phrasing and what notes the accents are on.

[hillaas]

In 12/8 the beats are in quavers and are grouped liek this:
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The accent is on the first of each group of 3.

In 4/4 the beats are in crothets and are grouped like this:
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The accent is on each crotchet beat.

[Jawn]

In 4/4 the beats are in crothets and are grouped like this:
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The accent is on each crotchet beat.

Most pop-rock music accent on beats 1 and 3.... or 2 and 4 if they are playing an offbeat. But its certainly not every beat.

[Disease]

I repeat..

Could just be 4/4 with a swing..




You could write it as 12/8, but you could just as easily write it as 4/4.

Other examples of such songs in the same boat are Sentimental Guy by Ben Folds and Don't Change Your Plans by Ben Folds Five. Both of these songs are transcribed in 4/4 with a swing. But it's the same time signature.

[Bec]

(this is mel_bound) I know it, I always thought it was swing until I read the tab book, I was just being a smart arse :p

[Disease]

(this is mel_bound)

Woah you changed your name?

[KillingInTheNameOf]

No; she's using Bec's account like she said :p

[Bec]

That was in another thread though, sorry :)

[Disease]

Haha ok then. Tricksy.

[Sammas]

I repeat..

You could write it as 12/8, but you could just as easily write it as 4/4.



That doesn't mean musicians will play the same thing though. There are actually quite a few guidelines for choosing 12/8 over 4/4, most being to clearly express the intentions of the person who wrote the piece of music. Thats the reason 12/8 came into existence in the first place... to force classically trained musicians to swing the music.

[Disease]

Damn classical musicians. :p

[Sammas]

Damn classical musicians. :p


Indeed :D

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[F#m7sus4]

My first post started up a hot topic wow you guys are great really helpful to other living endized musicians thanks everyone