Your Guitar Idols

[dwayne12]

This ones for the guitar players of the forum.

Who is your guitar idol? And What is it about them that inspires you to become a better player? You can have more than one.

I have quite a few guitar idols but mainly only 4.

1. Herman Li - Plays in the metal band dragonforce. He is very fast, puts crazy video game sounds into his solos. He's one of the fastest guitarists I've ever seen. His speed inspires me to try and make up my own fast crazy stuff which is quite fun and keeps me entertained on boring days. His crazy tapping solos and pinch harmonics leave me stunned. Watch the clip for "Through the fire and flames" on youtube. And you'll see why he is one of the best.
2. John Petrucci - Is in the bands; Dream Theater and The Liquid Tension Experiment. He inspires me to be a better guitarist mainly because of his style and precision of his solo's.
3. Yngwie Malmsteen - He is an extremely fast guitarist. When he plays, he plays with emotion and skill. The stuff he can do is breath taking, makes me wanna start playing guitar every time I see a clip of him or hear a audio clip of him playing.
4. Chris Cheney - You all know who he is, and if you don't shame on you for being a member of this forum. I admire his skill and showmanship. As well as his jazz influences in his guitaring. His material is fun to play on guitar, it's not difficult but it sounds excellent. He never puts on a dull show when he plays, and thousands upon thousands of people look up to him. I remember when I learnt to play prisoner of society years back when I first started playing I was so proud of myself. Tle songs are never dull to play :)

[Marv From NZ]

Quite the metal-head you are! :cool:

Well my idols guitar idols go down like this:

1. Angus Young This is who i base my guitaring on. While his riffs and licks aint exactly super fast, they're still extremely special because they're straight to the point, beautiful tone sounding and simple yet effective. He puts licks and solos in when they're needed, unlike most guitarists these days who just put random fillers. He never goes over the top and IMO thats what makes a great guitarist; Knowing the limits to a guitar orientated song. His stage prescence is also basically IMO the best in the world. Guitarists are performers aswell, no one does it better than lil old' Angus.

2. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott (R.I.P) Greatest metal guitarist of all time. It's that simple. He reinvited and created everything that was placed before him. No-one can recreate his tone, although many have tried. His tone is simply brutal. His riffs are IMO perfectly placed, alot like Angus Young. While he does have a definite hardder edge, he also knows the in's and outs for a song like Angus. His solos call for what's needed but at the same time are extremely hard to pull off and push the boundaries to a certain extent. Sucks he's not around anymore.

3. Slash Simply amazing. Can't be fucked writing an overview for him. But you know who he is and you know why he's a legend. Lets leave it at that.

4. Chris Cheney Diverse. Beautiful. Is part of my favourite band. I love him.....immensely. ;)

5. Synester Gates Simply Amazing...again.

[dwayne12]

Nice list you have there. I would have made mine bigger, but couldn't have been bothered typing anymore. I shoulda put Eddie Van Halen. He's one of my guitar idols same with Jimmi Hendrix. Amongst others.

[Marv From NZ]

Eddie Van Halen one fo my favourites aswell. Brown sound all the way!

[Sammas]

The little man inside my head...



...no really, he plays some fantastic guitar,


...now I just gotta learn how to do it.

[dwayne12]

Eddie Van Halen one fo my favourites aswell. Brown sound all the way!

I can't believe Brownsound quit SUM 41! I like SUM 41. Ahh well.

[WHITE FALCON]

Yeah i know!!

he was my favourite guitarist until i started liking TLE!

SUM 41 will never be the same i dont rekon.

well my fav guitarists are:

Chris Cheney: Because he is just amazing and i just love him! I love his stage presence, i love how he plays, i love the fact that he is australian, i love that he can make a solo sound so amazing. i think its great that he appreciates fans. He is the reason why i keep playing i think, just so i can dream about being as good as him and being able to play the same things he does! :D might sound gay but you know, everyone has their idols

Kirk Hammet: Because he is so awesome and fast and can play so many differnt types of solo's. He's just awesome!

[Brad]

Ian Moss for sure, his work just perfectly suits the songs.

Setzer and Cheney round out my top 3.

[CourTLErocks]

im not a guitar player but my bf is so im forced to listen to the guitar sound and i think chris chaney is the best and...umm...billy joe pretty good too

[Colezy]

im not a guitar player but my bf is so im forced to listen to the guitar sound and i think chris chaney is the best and...umm...billy joe pretty good too
Cheney
Billie

That is all I have to say :)

[CourTLErocks]

hahaahhaha here here

[dwayne12]

Hmm are you serious about Billie Joe? Or just joking? Cause most of the stuff he plays is your simple typical easy punk/rock music. It's like nothing exciting really.

[Neo]

The most influential guitarists on me are:
Chris Cheney
Chuck Berry
Richie Blackmore
Brian Setzer
Jimmy Page
Kirk Hammet
Justin and Dan Hawkins

But that's not to say I'm not influenced by many, many others. :)

[Jawn]

Buddy Guy
B.B King
Eric Clapton
Freddie King
Jimi Hendrix
Dan Auerbach
Xavier Rudd

They are my big influences.

It saddens me that people are listing guitar heroes and then saying "because they are fast". What gives? Playing guitar isn't a race man. Fast has nothing to do with anything.

[Lutman]

It saddens me that people are listing guitar heroes and then saying "because they are fast". What gives? Playing guitar isn't a race man. Fast has nothing to do with anything.
Of course it does. Believe it or not, it's actually difficult to play very fast scales and being able to have all the notes stand out. If fast didn't mean anything Chris Cheney's solos in so many of his songs would be different.

[Jawn]

It isn't that difficult, you just need a lot of practise and patience under you're belt.

Speed should be an irrelevent aspect to one's guitar soloing. I'm not saying you shouldn't play fast at all, but I don't like it when people think the be all and end all to playing is being able to play at speed. Play what needs to be played. Most of the time, lead guitarists put too much crap in their solos. They should learn when to play, when not to play, and when one single note will do rather than 1000 notes all tapped, or hammered on/pulled of.

As I said, if I was interested in speed, I'd go to a race track.

[*M!]

i am reminded of something from "Walk the Line"

there are a group of people jamming and some guy goes up to the guitarist for Johnny Cash and says - have you tried playing like this <<insert twiddly diddly bit of guitar work here>> and Johnny Cash's guitarist goes - na, i've already found the note you're looking for...

or something like that...

playing fast is not the be all and end all - there is a lot of showmanship involved in doing so BUT in my oppinion a slow expressive solo can be just as mind-blowing as something played at a million miles an hour so that no one knows if a note is missed or not...

iOTA plays some beautiful guitar

*M!

[Sammas]

Playing fast is something that can be learnt, playing with soul is something that cannot.

Unfortunately they don't really exist together except for a few exceptions. Most guitarists that can play fast think they have to play fast all the time. It is pretty pathetic. It reminds me of a live gig called Lightning in a Bottle, some dude in the house band through he'd try and "outplay" Buddy Guy. The guy was playing so fast and was so proud of himself that I thought he was going to take his pants off and "yank his own chain". That was pathetic...

I wouldn't consider Cheney a fast player. Kirk Hammet is a fast player, with a wah pedal surgically attach to his foot. Now there is a bloke for can't play anything other than mindless self endulging dribble. I don't even know where playing fast has a place in music... an artform, a method of self expression... other than self endulging of course.

[WHITE FALCON]

kirk is amazing!

[Neo]

Kirk Hammet is a fast player, with a wah pedal surgically attach to his foot. Now there is a bloke for can't play anything other than mindless self endulging dribble. I don't even know where playing fast has a place in music... an artform, a method of self expression... other than self endulging of course.Have you ever heard him just jamming without pedals? he is actually quite talented.

[Sammas]

Yeah i've heard plenty of his playing. If you had said that 6 or 7 years ago I would have wholeheartedly agreed, but not now. Everything he plays is so melodically two dimensional. It might get interesting if he left the phrygian occasionally. Hetfield plays more tasteful leads. But hey, if you like him don't let my comments sway you. He is near the bottom of the list for guitarists that I would ever try and emulate.

Atleast someone like petrucci can actually combine harmonically complex melodies with his fast playing. Even still, most of them sound like they are woodshedding to a metronome while on stage... no energy, it is more along the lines of "hey mum! look at me! I find it very unentertaining. Angus young, now there is a guitarist that can hold his own amongst the "speedheads" yet do it with energy and passion. That guy can play.


I find it amusing that a lot of "guitarist wanted" ad's specifically state NO METAL GUITARISTS.

[WHITE FALCON]

hahha yeah i agree with what you said!

[Marv From NZ]

People have their opinions, just let it be.

[*M!]

just because their oppinion isn't shared doesn't mean they can't voice it though Marv...

*M!

[Marv From NZ]

Did i say they couldn't voice it? What i'm trying to say is that people have their opinions, at least have the decency to respect and hear it out rather than bash the shit out of them just because you don't like it. That is all.

[*M!]

hmmm... yeah - ok - i didn't really read the post that i think you may have been refering to...

man - reading is making me crazy today!

i don't take things the correct/intended way...

i am listening to Monday and just fell in love with this Chris Cheney guitar guy... everyone should have a listen - he's the shiz!

:p

*M!

[cheneyisagod]

Eddie Van Halen
Angus Young
CHRIS CHENEY!!!!

[dwayne12]

Ok heres a comparison. Kirk Hammett was one of the most influential guitarists of the early 90's. But if you wanna pay out a guitarist for playing fast with no meaning I suggest you watch some clips of a guitarist called Herman Li who plays in a metal band called Dragonforce. Kirk Hammett was quoted saying that Herman Li is the fastest guitarist he's ever seen.

Heres some youtube links. Watch them then decide. This guy is pretty amazing and confident sure he might not take his stuff seriously but he's definitely one of the fastest I've ever seen.

Herman Li Explain Video Game Effects On Guitar: Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qtUiQJc7ZMI)
Herman Li Shredding:Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGumLj9UDBk)
Guitar solo from the dragonforce song. Through the fire and flames:
Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs)
Dragonforce - Operation Ground And Pound:Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yIiJYHRFpvE)
He's got some good skills.

Heres what kirk hammett was quoted as saying:
"I really like this absurd band called Dragonforce," Kirk said. "Those are the fastest guitar players I think I've ever seen. They're like Yngwie [Malmsteen] on steroids. No, they're like Barry Bonds on guitar. It's amazing. I saw one video and I swear to God the guy must've played 75,000 notes."
Heres the source: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/hammett_dragonforce_are_fastest_guitar_players_i_t hink_ive_ever_seen.html

[Strider]

Chris Cheney- Pretty much gave me the inspiration to learn guitar properly
Chet Atkins- His unique style has influenced many contry guitarists
Tommy Emmanuel- Took Chets style to another level.

[Sammas]

Ok heres a comparison. Kirk Hammett was one of the most influential guitarists of the early 90's. But if you wanna pay out a guitarist for playing fast with no meaning I suggest you watch some clips of a guitarist called Herman Li who plays in a metal band called Dragonforce. Kirk Hammett was quoted saying that Herman Li is the fastest guitarist he's ever seen.

Heres some youtube links. Watch them then decide. This guy is pretty amazing and confident sure he might not take his stuff seriously but he's definitely one of the fastest I've ever seen.

Herman Li Explain Video Game Effects On Guitar: Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qtUiQJc7ZMI)
Herman Li Shredding:Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGumLj9UDBk)
Guitar solo from the dragonforce song. Through the fire and flames:
Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs)
Dragonforce - Operation Ground And Pound:Click Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yIiJYHRFpvE)
He's got some good skills.

Heres what kirk hammett was quoted as saying:
"I really like this absurd band called Dragonforce," Kirk said. "Those are the fastest guitar players I think I've ever seen. They're like Yngwie [Malmsteen] on steroids. No, they're like Barry Bonds on guitar. It's amazing. I saw one video and I swear to God the guy must've played 75,000 notes."
Heres the source: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/hammett_dragonforce_are_fastest_guitar_players_i_t hink_ive_ever_seen.html



There is this dude too, it is all apples to apples though... at first glance it looks impressive, then it is just monotonous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTYTMvETkno

[Jawn]

At least Herman Li and Dragonforce are just having a bit of fun and aren't passing their music off as anything but a pissing contest at speed playing.

[Habibster]

Tom Morello from Audioslave- absolutely amazing guitarist, was originally in Rage Against the Machine
Chris Cheney-I don't have to say anything about chris as I would be repeating other people

[PrIsOnEr Of SoCieTy]

well out of every incredible guitarist out there these are my top 5:

1. Chris Cheney (amazing rockabilly style and the man that inspired my to pick up the axe)
2. Synester Fates (incredible lead guitarist of metal band avenged sevenfold)
3. Herman Li (fastest guitarist i have ever heard just amazing - DrangonForce)
4. John Frusciante((his slow but melodic style makes anyone like the red hot chili peppers)
5. Jade Puget (awesome guitarist of AFI)

[Julia]

1. Eric Clapton
2. George Harrison (The Beatles)
3. Johnny Greenwood (Radiohead)
4. Chet Atkins
5. Joe Walsh (The Eagles)

I love all these guys for pretty much the same reason, they're solos are so well thought out. Improvisation is great and all, but there is definitely something to be said for a well composed lead, and in my opinion it's alot more skillful. George Harrison for instance has come up with some of the most beautiful leads ever, and he'll only use a few notes. The solo in "Beware of Darkness" is a great example of this (especially when Eric Clapton plays it in Concert for George :p).

[cheney_wannabe]

Chris Cheney
Chet Atkins
Eddie Van Halen
Angus Young
Adrian Smith
Dave Murray

[Sammas]

Improvisation is great and all, but there is definitely something to be said for a well composed lead, and in my opinion it's alot more skillful.


You know most of those guys actually improvise there solo's? (eric clapton, Joe walsh unless it is harmonized, chet atkins... I don't know about the other 2).

But I agree, great guitarists! They have the theoretical understanding to composed such a complete sounding lead straight off the cuff.

[Rock'n'Roll]

Chuck Berry - my favourite rock'n'roll guitarist.. followed by Carl Perkins.
Dick Dale - king of the surf guitar.
Malcolm and Angus Young (AC/DC) - Malcolm for his rhythm, and Angus for being the crazy guitarist he is.. he is like the 2nd frontman of AC/DC.
Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath) - all round good playing with half a finger missing!
Johnny Ramone (Ramones) - my favourite punk rock guitarist.
Lobby Loyde - Australia's first guitar hero and the inventor of the Aussie pub rock sound. Saw him play at his benefit/tribute concert and bloody glad I did.

[Julia]

You know most of those guys actually improvise there solo's? (eric clapton, Joe walsh unless it is harmonized, chet atkins... I don't know about the other 2).

But I agree, great guitarists! They have the theoretical understanding to composed such a complete sounding lead straight off the cuff.

I remember reading an interview with Joe Walsh where he'd said how he used to drive himself insane coming up with leads, particularly Hotel California, though I suppose that is partly harmonized. With Chet Atkins I suppose I was referring more to all the instrumentals he's written rather than just his solos, but I definitely should've mentioned that Eric Clapton was an exception to what I was saying. :p

I know they're all killer improvisers, especially when it comes to playing live, but alot of their recorded leads/riffs/instrumentals sound like there's a bit more thought put into them, who knows. I don't mean to argue or anything, I just like discussing these things!

[crazypunkman]

Slash (Guns N' Roses/Velvet Revolver)- purely awesome
Chris Cheney (TLE)- don't really need to say anything here
John Frusciante (RHCP)- from funk to slow melodies to crazy solos he's got it all
Mick Jones (The Clash)- best guitarist in any punk band
Izzy Stradlin' (Guns N' Roses)- my favourite rhythm guitarist who also plays great leads on his solo albums

[Marv From NZ]

well out of every incredible guitarist out there these are my top 5:

1. Chris Cheney (amazing rockabilly style and the man that inspired my to pick up the axe)
2. Synester Fates (incredible lead guitarist of metal band avenged sevenfold)
3. Herman Li (fastest guitarist i have ever heard just amazing - DrangonForce)
4. John Frusciante((his slow but melodic style makes anyone like the red hot chili peppers)
5. Jade Puget (awesome guitarist of AFI)

:eek: :confused: :mad: :mad: It's Synester GATES you PAWN!!!!

[Sammas]

I remember reading an interview with Joe Walsh where he'd said how he used to drive himself insane coming up with leads, particularly Hotel California, though I suppose that is partly harmonized. With Chet Atkins I suppose I was referring more to all the instrumentals he's written rather than just his solos, but I definitely should've mentioned that Eric Clapton was an exception to what I was saying. :p

I know they're all killer improvisers, especially when it comes to playing live, but alot of their recorded leads/riffs/instrumentals sound like there's a bit more thought put into them, who knows. I don't mean to argue or anything, I just like discussing these things!

Discussing is good.

There is always going to be thought put into a solo before it actually happens, understanding what the song is doing, where the changes are, etc

Recording in a studio is just one of those things I guess... a lot of it is based around the frame of mind of the people who are playing. It sounds kinda bongville-marijuana-hippy but any, most try and get into the frame of mind of the actual piece of music, then let the solo flow from there as opposed to actually thinking about what they are going to play, even while they are playing it.

[Evil Chris]

hmm...

Chris Cheney - The Living End
Daron Malakian - System Of A Down
Jon Schaffer - Iced Earth
Malcolm Young - AC/DC
Angus Yound - AC/DC
Bernard Fanning - Powderfinger

[Adam]

I think it's not just how fast someone can play, but HOW they play.. And with passion.. So here's my top list of Influences and Idols

1. Chris Cheney - Legend. He inspired me to pick up the guitar and still does to this day. Just amazing. What more can i say that hasn't been said already.

2. Chuck Berry - Again, if u could name a better guitarist before this man, then I'd be pretty impressed. He kicked started the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame.. #1 inductee. He created songs that to this day are referred too. One of, if not the best...

3. Chet Atkins - This guy defines passion for me, playing from his heart, not from his speed! or from his solos! but from his heart, which makes me and millions around the world feel great. Absolute Legend, R.I.P.

4. Angus Young - One of the best. His amazing fills are still being idolised to this day, he had all the influences and styles to be guitar legend. Nearly every time i see a different video or song from AC/DC I'm almost stunned... (think about it, name an AC/DC song without a guitar solo in it, then think about how many songs they made.. more than 100...)

[Strider]

I think it's not just how fast someone can play, but HOW
2. Chuck Berry - Again, if u could name a better guitarist before this man, then I'd be pretty impressed. He kicked started the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame.. #1 inductee. He created songs that to this day are referred too. One of, if not the best...


Chuck Berry is a legend. And all his songs are pretty much just straight with a plectrum. It's funny tho, cos we were listening to my Chuck Berry Best of CD in my car a while back and my mate was like "Every single song has the same intro, how do you know which one is which" haha It's sorta true in a way but it's amazing how many bands and musicians Chuck Berry inspired.

[dwayne12]

:eek: :confused: :mad: :mad: It's Synester GATES you PAWN!!!!

hahaha. That made me laugh when you corrected. haha thanks for laugh. Yeah it's Synester Gates. Zacky Vengeance is a good guitarist in Avenged Sevenfold as well can't forget him.

[Marv From NZ]

Definitly the two best guitarists i've ever seen live. Extremely tight. a7x live is the shiz.

[State_Of_Emergency]

My favourite Guitarists (according to talent, personality, and their stage presence stuffo)

Chris Cheney : wonderful Guitarist. He plays solos awesome-o, and I love it. He's great at live stuff (from DVD :p) and he really appreciates all of the fans, which is brilliant! From what I've heard, Chris sounds like the sorta person that would treat you as a friend than a "fan"... I've always had trouble picking an instrument to play, but when I saw him on DVD, I went "I HAVE to learn Giutar" he sounds so good, and I love the TLE songs! Love the "beer bottle slide!"

Billie Joe Armstrong : awesome guitar player, lovely live performances... great :) very skilled in guitar. He plays different to Chris. A lot of people do.

[WHITE FALCON]

lol billie joe really isnt that tallented. yeah me might write some cool chord stuctures but he is nothing to be "wow'd" at.

[BonesTLE]

Well Chris Cheney is am obvious one for me. He really is my inspiration when playing. Some of my other fav's have already been named a few times such as Chuck Berry, Brian Setzer, and Angus Young.
But I will add George Harrison and Mike McCready, they are both from completely different eras and employ completely different styles but they're both amazing.

R.I.P George...

[Madtwins]

Very interesting thread. Our list:

1.Favourite Guitarists
Vadim Krasnooky (Mad Heads) - he is talented guitarist technically and as a song-writer.
Brian Setzer (Stray Cats and solo) - he is best in neo-rockabilly sound, and he brought those Gretsch guitar-popularity among all new billy acts.
Chris Cheney (The Living End) - he is good because he is punk-styled and classical-educated in guitar technique.
Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi) - love his guitar-sound and solos many years
Matthew Bellamy (Muse) - he is genius of creative

2.Good Guitarists
Kirk Hammet - Metallica
Johnny Burnette _ Johnny Burnette trio
Dick Dale
Jim "Reverend" Heath - RHH
Dennis Danell - Social Distortion
Elvis - like thythm gyitarist at his early carrer
Stas Bogorad - The Meantraitors - he is a best psychobilly-guitarist for us, his instrumetals are best among others pychos.

We also can admit Jade from AFI and guitarist of Billy Talent - they are very interesting but we can't evaluate their technical level

[Evil Chris]

My favourite Guitarists (according to talent, personality, and their stage presence stuffo)


Billie Joe Armstrong : awesome guitar player, lovely live performances... great :) very skilled in guitar. He plays different to Chris. A lot of people do.

Believe me. He cant play guitar for shit. And as for live. Jason White Does all the guitaring. He hardly does any.

If you looked at the tabs for Green Day's Songs. You will learn it in 2 seconds.

BTW. I forgot Hendrix. How could I.

[hillaas]

^i agree


My guitar hero is DANIEL CAMILLERI!

[Kev]

BB King

Legend

Also Stevie Ray Vaughn.

[Madtwins]

He cant play guitar for shit. And as for live. If you looked at the tabs for Green Day's Songs. You will learn it in 2 seconds.

BTW.

We agree Billy Joe don't make a hard work when he plays guitar live - but he create his songs by himself - using guitar... He can do it well!

[Evil Chris]

Talent In Writing Songs. But not in guitar.

[hillaas]

OK. GD has talent on their instruments. Not much but you have to have so much to have a sucessful band. Neither of them is exceptional on their instruments but you can still write good songs without having a heap of skill on your instruments. (ie. in Blink 182 - Trav is the only stunning musician). This is the reason why GD has so many good songs. They pull out good songs without having awesome blinding solos and really intricate verses, etc. Even now, as i listen to 'Minority' its just simple chords, a simple bass line, a harmonica and an easy drum beat. But it's not the skill that makes a good band. Its the songs and how well they market themselves. GD has changed their image a few times and this is what you have to do to keep popular as long as they have and keep in the charts if you aren't a particuarly talented band. For example, look at Madonna. How may times has she changed her image to keep in the charts? Countless. GD has marketed themselves with excellence and their catch songs contribute to why they are so popular (even 17 years after being formed). Billy-Joe isn't an awesome guitarist and we all know that, this is why Jason White plays most of the guitar parts live. But he is an excellent entertainer and he connects with the crowd when he plays live. He puts on a spectacle. "When you play to a crowd of 75,000 people, you cant be intimate, you have to put on a spectacle". In the words of Billy Joe himself, it's not about how well you play, it's the show you put on. This is why they are so good live. I dont fully agree with his point of view, because bands like TLE are extrememly talented and they put on an awesome show, but this applies to GD.

[Sammas]

But it's not the skill that makes a good band. Its the songs and how well they market themselves.

The key there is how well they market themselves. After all, they do have a giant mass marketing engine pushing CD sales... I find CD sales and chart hits the stupidest way to gauge a band's talent or success.

Take Ashlee Simpson. She can't sing, she can't write, she can't play an instrument... but a high class production team polished the smelly worthless turd of a musician that she is into an economically viable product and mass marketed it to oblivious consumers which gobbled it up. It was pushed so hard in the commercial world that she managed to release two consecutive number one albums.

It just goes to show that the only thing needed for "success" in the music industry is financial backing.

[Madtwins]

Sammas!!!! Popularity and talent is a different things!!! Don't need to dispute about it. We think that some people mentioned Billy Joe in this thread only because they love GD music.
Our friend - Max - professional misician (sax-player) loves jazz music, he told us many things about talented jazz-musicians. He told some of them which he think are genius played on the streets and have no money. Because they can't work out with popularity. So it's a important part of musicians career.

And please don't discuss acts which got a promotion and became popular. We all have brains for hear who can sing and who are hollow. And don't forget that in musical bussiness exists producer's projects and musician's projects. So in #1 working a skilled team for marketing - in #2 working enthusiast-musicians which getting their experience with time and hard work. This stuff can be compared!

[Sammas]

Sammas!!!! Popularity and talent is a different things!!! Don't need to dispute about it. We think that some people mentioned Billy Joe in this thread only because they love GD music.
Our friend - Max - professional misician (sax-player) loves jazz music, he told us many things about talented jazz-musicians. He told some of them which he think are genius played on the streets and have no money. Because they can't work out with popularity. So it's a important part of musicians career.

It depends what aspect of the music industry the musician is envolved in. Studio musicians have their popularity based entirely on their talent to play their instrument. The music industry far exceeds the pop charts and CD sales, as does success within it. There are just as many rock bands and pop artists out of work as musicians in any other genre of music because it is economically unviable. People don't need to buy music to live.


And please don't discuss acts which got a promotion and became popular.

So no talking about Green Day, or the Living End, or any other band signed to a major record label? They have been actively promoted around the world which directly effected their popularity. They have even hired production specialists to better their own work for release. It is just a part of making their music as economically viable as possible.

[hillaas]

I don't see anything wrong with getting a major label backing you. Anyway, for serious bands, don't they all want to become better known and tour and have chart hits etc?

[Evil Chris]

Umm.. Nirvana Didnt, Thats Why Kurt Cobain Killed Himself. Teen Spirit Got Them Toooooooo Famous, and they didnt even write it.

[Sammas]

I don't see anything wrong with getting a major label backing you.

Either do I, but regardless of whether you are Ashlee Simpson or the Living End you have been given that backing with the single intention of making money... as much money as physically possible. It is business after all, and labels will do everything within their power to push the product to the masses.

Anyway, for serious bands, don't they all want to become better known and tour and have chart hits etc?

Im sure there isn't a musician on the planet that wouldn't like their music to become famous, but major label backing doesn't guarantee that it will be the music that you want to play. If it were the end goal people wouldn't spend years studying jazz or classical music, they'd all jump into popular music instead.

Thats why success is such an individual thing. Some might have the objective of a number one hit, some might have the objective of writing the best possible music that they can, others might aim to play with the most talented musicians around in a jazz band or a symphony orchestra, some might even aim at making a living off new media or other "fringe" music styles. In many ways, musicians with these goals acknowledge that major record labels are the quickest way to sacrifice what they really want to do in order to make money.

[hillaas]

I fully agree with everything you just said.

[Wake_Up_TLE]

Well obviously Chris Cheney... I watched a clip from the dvd FHOI it was him doing the solo for End of the world, i though my friend had fast forwarded it or something. The speed that he plays at is unbelievable, its amazing that someone can be so passionate about something like playing the guitar and make everything look so easy.

Brian Setzer - I grew up listening and watching Brian Setzer play, watching him play live on Rumble in Brixton was so incredible, i couldnt take my eyes of the screen.

Stu Arkoff - What can i say...he really is a brilliant guitarist, everythign i said about Chris and Brian is the exact same for Stu, all three are brilliant guitarists, i couldnt even imagine what would happen if all three got together

[Madtwins]

So no talking about Green Day, or the Living End, or any other band signed to a major record label? They have been actively promoted around the world which directly effected their popularity. They have even hired production specialists to better their own work for release. It is just a part of making their music as economically viable as possible.

No! We mean acts which starting career way with "signing major and getting a huge promotion". Living End began without it and after making a good songs signed some label.

We mean girl-boys-bands where members are chosen by professional promoters for creating special projects.

Don't know about Aussie - but in Ukraine YES-popularity can me measured only by quantity of CD selling!!! This is real showing.

We are communicate with professional musicians which involved in music bussiness many years and they say that any money and major-promotion didn't help if the song is not good. People will know this song but forget about it after promotion ends. Good songs, good material - will stay with people forever.

[hillaas]

But if you have a good label and a good song, it is bound to be a hit. With the right promotion it will always be a hit. Assuming it caters to the general tennie-bopper pop market.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

1. Herman Li - Plays in the metal band dragonforce. He is very fast, puts crazy video game sounds into his solos. He's one of the fastest guitarists I've ever seen. His speed inspires me to try and make up my own fast crazy stuff which is quite fun and keeps me entertained on boring days. His crazy tapping solos and pinch harmonics leave me stunned. Watch the clip for "Through the fire and flames" on youtube. And you'll see why he is one of the best.


Not much point watching it: his hands are too fast to pick up :p

[hillaas]

*goes to watch it anyway*

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Yeah as much as I rate the 2 DF guitarists in their ability their songs do get quite repetitive after a while.

Although their songs never lose any "woah" factor when you listen to them over and over which is good :)

[hillaas]

FUCK














































































ME


















































































DEAD










































Man, i should really get into this band. They are fucking nuts!

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Haha listen to "Revolution Deathsquad"

Herman's solo in that doesnt even sound remotely like a guitar.
First time I heard i was like "nah that cant be it" and listened to the song again just to make sure the cd hadnt skipped somewhere



DragonForce (www.myspace.com/dragonforce) - Insane extreme power metal

[hillaas]

Yeah. WIll do. After freakin internet stops being so slow. Give me an hour or so :p

[KillingInTheNameOf]

haha stuff that Im goin to bed :p

[mel_bound]

FUCK

*spaces*

ME

*spaces*

DEAD

*spaces*

Man, i should really get into this band. They are fucking nuts!

hhahahaha. That was pretty funny. Maybe I should go to bed now too :p

[Jawn]

Yeah as much as I rate the 2 DF guitarists in their ability their songs do get quite repetitive after a while.


I don't rate their guitaring ability at all. All from what Ive heard is boring, easy fast playing. Playing fast is quite easy, you just gotta practise a lot. Anyone can get there. They are just tricksters. Show me some real playing.

[Sammas]

I don't rate their guitaring ability at all. All from what Ive heard is boring, easy fast playing. Playing fast is quite easy, you just gotta practise a lot. Anyone can get there. They are just tricksters. Show me some real playing.


'tis like a cold shower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8zquoO10oQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-5MPTn7T6A


what I like the most about these two is that they can play fast, but realise they don't need to...

[Jawn]

oh man, I wish Jeff Beck's had better sound quality. Thats some very sweet guitar.

[Jawn]

oh and to return the favour:

not my favourite off the DVD but still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOzLQEu5Do&mode=related&search=

[Marv From NZ]

Agghhh the Glory Days!

[Sammas]

oh man, I wish Jeff Beck's had better sound quality. Thats some very sweet guitar.

Yeah its amazing how he balances the volume knob, fingerpicking and the trem arm all at the same time with his right hand.

Thanks for the video. :)

[Dthwestcoast]

Hmm are you serious about Billie Joe? Or just joking? Cause most of the stuff he plays is your simple typical easy punk/rock music. It's like nothing exciting really.

100 bucks says he plays better than you ever will and define simple I think he is good as is cheney (obviously, those solos can impress even the best, and that isn't me I know I am not very good but as long as it is fun)

[hillaas]

He obviosly has a bit of skill but will never be as good as Chris. He's not that talented.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

100 bucks says he plays better than you ever will and define simple I think he is good as is cheney

rofl
lmao
lolz . . .


yeah you get the drift

[Jawn]

Just because Billie Joe doesn't play intricate solos doesn't mean he CAN'T people.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

I know that.

he just cant full stop

[Evil Chris]

DragonForce Is Awesome. It's like metal without the screaming.

[hillaas]

The 3 guys in G3 are legends for sure. Still deciding if it's worth seeing this sunday. Help me decide guys!

[KillingInTheNameOf]

DragonForce Is Awesome. It's like metal without the screaming.

A lot of metal doesnt have screaming . ..

Iron Maiden being the prime example

[Evil Chris]

maybe because i havent heard much Iron Maiden. I was gonna get edward the great a couple of weeks ago but I bought season 7 of seinfeld instead.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Yeah but they arent the only band who dont use screaming

Iced Earth for the best part dont
Metallica dont
Judas Priest . . .
King Diamond
LORD

infact the only metal that uses screams are extreme metal (eg Death metal, grindcore) and hardcore/metalcore (which arent really metal anyway)

Saving the thread:

Alrighty myspace time!

Trivium (www.myspace.com/trivium) - thrash/metalcore

LORD (www.myspace.com/lordaus) - power/thrash

Karnivool (www.myspace.com/karnivool) - alternative/prog rock

Slayer (www.myspace.com/slayer) - thrash thrash and more thrash

Iced Earth (www.myspace.com/icedearthofficial) - power/thrash

Static-X (www.myspace.com/staticx) - industrial rock/metal

Iron Maiden (www.myspace.com/ironmaiden) - NWOBHM/progressive

Judas Priest (www.myspace.com/judaspriest) - pioneered the great metal revival back in the day

Alter Bridge (www.myspace.com/alterbridge) - hard rock

DragonForce (www.myspace.com/dragonforce) - Insane extreme power metal

the only band in that quote that has used/uses screaming is Trivium

[Evil Chris]

Metallica do scream. But Rarely.

[Jawn]

I know that.

he just cant full stop

and what do you base that on?

[Julian]

The fact that he rarely plays his solos live at all. And perhaps the fact the vast majority of GD songs are simple as shit. That's a fair enough basis imo.

[Jawn]

The fact that he rarely plays his solos live at all. And perhaps the fact the vast majority of GD songs are simple as shit. That's a fair enough basis imo.

Not at all. Some of the greatest songs written by the greatest musicians are simple. You can't judge a guitarist based on the simplicity of what they play. Its how well they play what they play. And even though I know its cool to bag Green Day now or something, you have to admit that they do what they do quite well.

I can see where you are coming from about the live aspect. But you must understand there are many different ways to play the guitar, one of which is not playing solos. You don't need to play solos to be good at guitar. That mentality is what led to the evils of shred and other wankfest guitaring.

Unless you have had a private jam with someone, you can't assess their ability. For all we know, Billie Joe could be a jazz guitarist virtuoso, he just chooses to release his Green Day material. Even then, if his Green Day material is all that he does, he still does it quite well and thus is a good guitarist.

[Julian]

I like Green Day I don't love them nor listen to them much but they're ok. Billie Joe is a good songwriter, from what he shows he's not a great guitarist.

[Jawn]

why isn't he a good guitarist?

[chainsaw cheney]

billie joe is actually an underated guitarist i think. Green Day can still make 10 minute songs with only 5 chords and still have you listening by the end of it. The older Green Day, (39/smooth years) Billie was palying guitar solos. He plays a good one in Minority on their DVD and he has the skills as a ryhthm guitarist great and can play behind his head. =]

[chainsaw cheney]

PS...Slash is wicked

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Metallica do scream. But Rarely.

When have Metallica ever used screaming? :confused:

[chainsaw cheney]

maybe its growling? O.o

[Jawn]

billie joe is actually an underated guitarist i think. Green Day can still make 10 minute songs with only 5 chords and still have you listening by the end of it. The older Green Day, (39/smooth years) Billie was palying guitar solos. He plays a good one in Minority on their DVD and he has the skills as a ryhthm guitarist great and can play behind his head. =]

Whilst I'm defending Billie Joe, and we are technically on the same side for this debate, I must go against you about the guitar behind his head bit. You aren't good if you play behind your head, or with your teeth, or any of the other assorted tricks people do.

[chainsaw cheney]

but it looks hell wicked and its not the easiest thing to do

[Marv From NZ]

When have Metallica ever used screaming? :confused:

The answer to that is never. They never have and they never will.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

maybe its growling? O.o

I wouldnt even call it that

James Hetfield just has a low, husky sounding singing voice

*edit* thankyou Marvan

[Marv From NZ]

No worries lovenuts.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

*loves Marv's nuts*

[Jawn]

but it looks hell wicked and its not the easiest thing to do

It is super easy to do with practise.

[chainsaw cheney]

no really. playing chords with your hand twisted like that isnt. but you can play lead like that.

[Evil Chris]

When have Metallica ever used screaming? :confused:

Enter Sandman, I would call that screaming.

Metallica are not consistant at all when releasing good music I must say.

[Neo]

Enter Sandman, I would call that screaming.

*points and laughs*

[KillingInTheNameOf]

*points and laughs*

Secondededededededededededededededededededed

[Marv From NZ]

Enter Sandman, I would call that screaming.

Metallica are not consistant at all when releasing good music I must say.

They haven't really released anything "consistantly" good since And Justice For All.... Everything after that album turned to poos.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Each people have different opinions of good Marvan

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Haha listen to "Revolution Deathsquad"

Herman's solo in that doesnt even sound remotely like a guitar.
First time I heard i was like "nah that cant be it" and listened to the song again just to make sure the cd hadnt skipped somewhere

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r7_yKkKAU-c

goo old youtube . ..

Yeah the solo's in this are rediculous even by DF standards

[WHITE FALCON]

tahts fucking insane!

this one is mental as!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Yeah thats the one from "through fire and flames"

I actually prefer their earlier songs cos its less wanky but the wanky stuff is still pretty nuts!

[Marv From NZ]

Each people have different opinions of good Marvan

What's that?

[Evil Chris]

Heman Li is just very very very talented. Being left handed and not being able to afford a left handed guitar, he took up a right handed guitar. And He plays it as he is right handed. :O And for him to make those solos is just crazy.. Well he is asian and they're very hard working.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Herman Li plays both left handed and right handed durin soloes

[tainted_love]

My guitar hero's are the obvious.. Chris Cheney and Brian Setzer but also some punk guitarists like Johnny Thunders, Greg Ginn (Blackflag) and Nick Zinner (Yeah Yeah Yeah's).

[Marv From NZ]

Isn't one of the dudes in Dragonforce a Kiwi?

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Yeah Sam Totman was born in NZ and lived there til he was like 20 i think

[Marv From NZ]

How old is he now? Is he the other guitarist?

[hillaas]

Matthew Bellamy is a hero. Not the best guitarist but he is pretty good and an awesome vocalist and pianist.

[KillingInTheNameOf]

Yeah. Umm not sure

wiki time!

*comes back from wiki*

stupid Wiki <_<

Nah he was born in England but moved to NZ til mid-to-late-90s when he went back to England with one of his old bands

[mel_bound]

Matthew Bellamy is a hero. Not the best guitarist but he is pretty good and an awesome vocalist and pianist.

I think he's pretty impressive on guitar. Not to over the top. I also think Chris and Dom are incredible bassists and drummers respecitvely.

Josh Homme = king of droning riffs. Mmmm

[Marv From NZ]

Bellamy is an inspiration for sure. Muse is an inspiration. I love that band.

[hillaas]

Yeah. After reading about him in Wikipedia after did that last post i realised he is heaps better than i thought. I thought he was just a convert guitarist from piano but he is way better than that. And now as i watch the DVD of MUSE i realise he is legendary. Man. Cant wait to see em in 1 and a half months!

[tainted_love]

Yeah I'm looking foward to seeing Muse at Bdo. They'll be a good live show I reckon.

[Jawn]

Josh Homme = king of droning riffs. Mmmm

check out some swampy type blues.

The Black Keys EP Chaluhoama, Buddy Guy's Sweet Tea, R.L Burnside, Junior Kimborough.

[WHITE FALCON]

cheney
setzer

[Daniel]

oviously cheney

in no particular order
slash, page, beck, clapton, halen, vai, petrucci, satriani, ynagge or wateva, angus youngum, setzer, hamett etc

[thelivingvines]

cheney, bellamy, buckley.... and thats really it for the people who interest me.

[mel_bound]

check out some swampy type blues.

The Black Keys EP Chaluhoama, Buddy Guy's Sweet Tea, R.L Burnside, Junior Kimborough.

Ok, thanks for the tip! :D

[Julian]

check out some swampy type blues.

The Black Keys EP Chaluhoama
Fark yeah. Though I do prefer TBK's rockier songs. What do you think of Magic Potion?

[Jawn]

Fark yeah. Though I do prefer TBK's rockier songs. What do you think of Magic Potion?

its just your run of the mill Black Keys stuff really. Nothing mindblowing or different, but its them doing what they do really well.

I think Chalohouma is their best release though.

[tainted_love]

I think The White Stripes have some good blues on their early albums. Little Bird is probably my favourite song of theirs. Jack White is another of my guitar heros.

[lachlandavis]

Yeh i would have to say, Chris Cheney, because i find his solos interesting and melodic, not just a zillion taps and pull offs, quit a nice change

But Others Include Tom Morello of Audioslave, He has changed guitar playing forever, with his wild style of playing and effects.

And for sheer talent, Vai and Satriani and Petrucci

[Johnny_Wah]

Chris Cheney - No explanation needed - straight to the point guitar.

Johnny Greenwood - I love the way he uses the guitar noises with pedals like in the last chorus of Just - pick-scraping with tremolo.

Bruce Mathiske - Influential acousticness - http://www.myspace.com/brucemathiske (http://www.myspace.com/brucemathise)
Unfortunately not much of him on the web, but his guitar tab on his website

Tom Morello - Goodness. Crazy funky guitarist

[lachlandavis]

Tell you who i dont like, Now matter how good his solos are

Yngwie J Malmsteen
(the J is so you dont confuse him with all the other Yngwie J Malmsteens)

To quote him on his thoughts on the blues
"yeh i had that **** figured out after a couple of days"

[Grumma]

Haha top bloke :p

[Deanis]

Cheney, showmanship, brilliant catchy solos, can write a pop song that is still fairly intricate guitarwise.
Setzer, rockabilly legend, rocking solos, rocking solos, rocking solos.
BB King, jazz legend, awesome solos. 'Its just the vibe'
Pete Satchell of Dallas Crane fame. One of my fave bands/guitarists atm, I enjoy the way he shapes his solos and guitar lines around the bass and rhythme guitarist, plus his style with the Firebird double cutaway he plays is encapsulating.

[AlinaPOW]

Pete plays heaps of guitars! There's not even one that I can really just look at him and associate him with that particular guitar, like you can with many guitarists. He is rad though :D

[damo0945]

Whilst I'm defending Billie Joe, and we are technically on the same side for this debate, I must go against you about the guitar behind his head bit. You aren't good if you play behind your head, or with your teeth, or any of the other assorted tricks people do.

i'll third that i think billie joe can play, just doesn't much and its all cleverly written stuff.

and out of interest, if anyone can do it, how the hell do you play with your teeth? i can play behind my head a bit, i can see that if i practiced i'd get better, but teeth are inanimate objects??!!

and i'll also say that i, like a lot of others, think huge metal solos are very overrated, ruins the songs sometimes, its like this songs pretty cool, then comes on this retardedly big solo *yawn* as much as i like guitar, it bores me.

And rhythm guitar is a skill too, i personally enjoy playing a tricky palm muted rhythm more than most lead

[TheBait]

(Not in any order)

1. Tom Morello (From Lock Up, RATM and Audioslave fame.)
2. Daron Malakian (SOAD)
3. Andy McKee. Awesome guitarist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddn4MGaS3N4
4. Kim Thayil (Soundgarden.)

...


What?


Oh fine.

5. Chris Cheney.

HAPPY?!

[Jawn]

and out of interest, if anyone can do it, how the hell do you play with your teeth? i can play behind my head a bit, i can see that if i practiced i'd get better, but teeth are inanimate objects??!!


Its easy. You use your teeth as a guitar pick. Hold the guitar up to your mouth and pluck the strings with your teeth. If you want to be a baby, you can bite down on your plectrum and move your head up and down to strum.

[WHITE FALCON]

lol and you can end up like trav and have one of your teeth pulled out. not by a stick but by your string. can you imagine it gettin caught inbetween two of your teeth.

"Thats fuckin punk"

[Julian]

And the last thing you wanna do is swallow a pick by accident :p

[Jawn]

You fucking pussies. Ozzy Osbourne bites the head off a real live bat, and you are worried about swallowing a pick :p

[Julian]

He didn't know it was real :p

And swallowing picks is really bad for you :p

[WHITE FALCON]

how fucked up is ozzy ozbourne now but?:)

[Johnny_Wah]

Oh, oh, I know this one

[Grumma]

Tom Morello 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFUva7Xe94)
Tom Morello 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQYMo0Nb4oE)


Respect Walk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHlHYifzEA)

[Quakin Jake]

I think the greatest guitarist to have ever lived is Django Reinhardt. Enough said. Also up there as my favourite players are Brian Setzer, Reverend Horton Heat, Les Paul, Synester Gates (mainly for his playing in Pinkly Smooth and the end of Sidewinder :p), Ernest Rangling, Hound Dog Tailor, and the man himself, Tommy Emmanuel. I also really liked Peter Sandorff in the Nekromantix, he was really interesting and I'll be interested to see how Troy Russell goes filling in.

I was never really impressed by the million notes a second antics of people like Herman Li and John Pettruci. Sure, the guys are obviously technically talented but who cares? It's not really music, it's just them showing off. A song is not a vehicle to show how many notes you can play, it's meant to be a SONG!!

[Fritz]

dude, peter hasnt been in nekromantix for nearly 2 years now hehe

[Grumma]

Sure, the guys are obviously technically talented but who cares? It's not really music, it's just them showing off.

I care ^_^
Wanky shredding FTW

[Grumma]

Shameless revival:

If anyone disagrees with this they can argue with Jawn's bro lol:
Hallowed Be They Name guitar hero style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QueIcczQUQ)

Free Bird guitar hero style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeilR-gZ4k0)

MKH and his bud bustin out some KD magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaAR8n_Ph2A&feature=related)

[Johnny_Wah]

Awesome!!!1!!1

[Falcon Of Death]

some guitarists that influence me:

Frank Iero - Not so exciting, but he writes some great rhythm parts
John Frusciante - plays some excellent slide solos, and writes some great melody parts
Chris Cheney - one word: solos, his solos are always kickass, without being too fast and full of shit, not too fast
jerome fontamillas/drew shirley - guitarists of switchfoot, write some great riffs in their drop d songs, especially meant to live and stars
Kevin "Noodles" Wasserman - writes some great stuff, and his playing style is really great, watch can't repeat to see ;)
Pat Davern - his solos, and his riffs sound great, like on black tattoo and what you got (awesome)
and thats all :D

[Quakin Jake]

John Mayer is where its at people, thats some rad shit right there. Jake Kiley from Strung Out is good too 'specially live.

Also, back from my days as a rabid RABID GD fan I bought loads of bootlegged tapes from all around the world and theres a whole bunch with Bille Joe busting widdly diddly licks like nobody's business, mainly when they play Knowledge. Also, anyone who was part of the Idiot Club might have seen a video of him backstage playing guitar through this little practice amp that he blows up with his Jimmy Page style licks.

[thelivingvines]

John Mayer is where its at people, thats some rad shit right there. Jake Kiley from Strung Out is good too 'specially live.

Also, back from my days as a rabid RABID GD fan I bought loads of bootlegged tapes from all around the world and theres a whole bunch with Bille Joe busting widdly diddly licks like nobody's business, mainly when they play Knowledge. Also, anyone who was part of the Idiot Club might have seen a video of him backstage playing guitar through this little practice amp that he blows up with his Jimmy Page style licks.

Billy Joe can widdly diddly? I thought he only knew barre chords.

[Grumma]

it was probably that other guitarist they have

[Johnny_Wah]

Yeah, probs the other guy. I seem to remember listen to a cover they did ages ago and it has some decent improv work on it. I'd like to see that clip of him playing them riffs too. *hint hint quakin jake*;)

[damo0945]

it was probably that other guitarist they have

nah, most of the cool stuff on record was done a fair while before they even toured with another guitarist

youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4YLSP9ob3Y)

[Quakin Jake]

Haha, I would post them up but they're all on old school VHS :) Its definatly BJ though. Alot of the songs off 1039/Smooth have some pretty bitchin solos, The Judge's Daughter being a prime example.

[Johnny_Wah]

Woah, listening to damos youtube clip, i can see that - hes a bit of a shredder! and yeah, judges daughter is a good one. Its a pity he doesnt play like that anymore...:)

[Jawn]

you do all realise that playing rythym and just barre chords is just as, if not more, important than widdly diddling on the guitar? it takes the same amount, if not more, skill as well

[damo0945]

yeah i'm in favour of that theory too, even some rhythms that are just weird timing with palm muting, also obscure chords and that are hard as (not that i actually know all that many of them, if any)

[Grumma]

I'm with the DragonForce school of thinking - just chuck out rhythm and play lead for 7 minutes :p

[Johnny_Wah]

I'm with the DragonForce school of thinking - just chuck out rhythm and play lead for 7 minutes :p

Hahahaha! Or you could go one step up and start playing like Michael Angelo Batio:p

[Grumma]

Or playing like Billy Joe here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b2erPjaJOo&feature=related

[Jawn]

I'm with the DragonForce school of thinking - just chuck out rhythm and play lead for 7 minutes :p

and that is why Dragonforce sounds like arse.

[Grumma]

if you mean Jessica Alba's ass i agree

[damo0945]

i'm sure the sounds made by that arse are much the same as anyone else's...

[WHITE FALCON]

dragonforce are bad live!

[_jimmy_]

5 guitarist that have wowed me lately.

Django Reinhardt,johnny Greenwood,Chris Cheney,Angus Young and Brian Setzer.

[Jonnno]

+1 on the Django and Jonny. I saw a clip of Radiohead playing The Bends and he was going crazy! I've gotten into Ian Moss lately too, his solo stuff is sweet. Also, Matt Bellamy is amazing, his riffs are fantastic and original and his songwriting is out of this world. That said, Dom is an awesome drummer and Chris is a very good bassist - he's got tons of stamina.

[_jimmy_]

So In Other words...Muse are pretty damn good!! I heard invincible by them and the tapping solo in it is just whoa~ its flashy and tasteful!