White Noise in the U.S.?

[jmiller1711]

Forgive me if this has been posted already, but does anyone know when White Noise will be released in the States? It has been over a year since the release and I need to get my hands on this record.

[Kacky]

If you're close to Canada it's being released here Sept 15th, so you could venture over the border.

No idea about an American release, sorry :(

[Kev]

The US dollar is superior to the Aussie Dollar, so just import it.

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/white-noise-rarities-collectors-edition-2cd/398997

[Kacky]

Not everyone has a credit card Kevbo, or their 'rents wont let them use it!

[carrymehomestead]

They left Adeline (Billie Joe's mini-label), their distributor in the US for a couple years now, saying that they didn't think it could give the promotion/distribution/etc. that they feel White Noise deserves. They were presumably searching for a new US label, although, now it seems to not be coming out here at all, so that's turning out to be a pretty shitty solution....:unsure:

[Habibster]

Has that decision to leave, i wonder, angered Green Day and/or Billie Joe or pissed them off a tiny bit? Seeing as the living end are mates with them.

[Kacky]

There are other US labels that are better than Adeline anyway!

[carrymehomestead]

"Better"?? Seems like a strange word to use in reference to a record label. Adeline is small, though.

But it's not like they can just pick one and jump on. They have to be desired and get signed. And, unfortunately, I think a lot of labels over here see them as "that band that released the singles Prisoner of Society and Roll On and then disappeared" (the car accident didn't help). Although it seems like White Noise has been their most successful album in a long time, so...hopefully that's going to change.

I was just thinking about this tonight, I'm watching this movie Cheaters (2002), it's sort of a slightly-better-than-average teen movie that was kind of under the radar. But it's American, and the soundtrack is almost entirely composed of Living End stuff...Roll On, POS, Astoria Paranoia, Dirty Man...

[Kacky]

I don't usually hear anything about Adeline and when they stopped talking about TLE altogether I wondered what had happened.

But it's getting released in Canada, so they are half getting it out here in North America. (Or they just like us better :p)

[How_Do_We_Know]

Has that decision to leave, i wonder, angered Green Day and/or Billie Joe or pissed them off a tiny bit? Seeing as the living end are mates with them.

I would have thought so but there was a Green Day special on Video Hits not /too/ long ago where Billie Joe, after being asked if Green Day are still in touch with TLE, said that they still send each other Christmas cards. So I would guess that everything's good. :p

[The Dying Start]

They may be hate-filled Christmas Cards!

[thelivingvines]

Although it seems like White Noise has been their most successful album in a long time, so...hopefully that's going to change.


you mean since State Of Emergency? The Living End's highest debuting position in the ARIA charts; the album that went to number 1 two weeks after release; The album that achieved 2x platinum within 18 months of release...

I think you should rephrase that to "most successful since their last album."

[thelivingvines]

But it's getting released in Canada, so they are half getting it out here in North America. (Or they just like us better :p)

Everyone knows Canada is better than America anyway.... deep down... or they should. Smart move, I say!

In Chris' words: "fuck 'em, we don't need 'em"

[carrymehomestead]

you mean since State Of Emergency? The Living End's highest debuting position in the ARIA charts; the album that went to number 1 two weeks after release; The album that achieved 2x platinum within 18 months of release...

I think you should rephrase that to "most successful since their last album."



Well, living in America, I don't have a full grasp of the Australian music scene, in terms of what has been heavily spun on the radio/music video networks, which album has sold more copies than the other, etc. What I do know is really just gathered from reading articles/interviews and reports about awards they've been nominated for/won. It just seemed to me like even for a successful band, White Noise blew up BIG TIME...particularly its hit singles (historically thats usually a strongpoint for them). The title track won Chris his first songwriting award/nomination, right?? And they've done more extensive touring outside of Oz (leaving out, of course, the poor ol' US of A) than in quite some time, so that means its got to be doing quite well in other territories also.

But as you pointed out, SOE was also obviously a big success, I was just under the impression that WN dwarfed it. Also, now that you mention it, I do remember reading an interview with Chris where he said something along the lines of "I don't know why people keep referring to this (White Noise) as a 'comeback' album, our last record was really quite successful in its own right".

[carrymehomestead]

They may be hate-filled Christmas Cards!

Hahaha, I just got such an awesome mental image from this. Billie Joe opening up this meticulously crafted holiday greeting card only to realize its wishing him to get fucked this holiday season.

I'm easily amused.

[thelivingvines]

Well, living in America, I don't have a full grasp of the Australian music scene, in terms of what has been heavily spun on the radio/music video networks, which album has sold more copies than the other, etc. What I do know is really just gathered from reading articles/interviews and reports about awards they've been nominated for/won. It just seemed to me like even for a successful band, White Noise blew up BIG TIME...particularly its hit singles (historically thats usually a strongpoint for them). The title track won Chris his first songwriting award/nomination, right?? And they've done more extensive touring outside of Oz (leaving out, of course, the poor ol' US of A) than in quite some time, so that means its got to be doing quite well in other territories also.

But as you pointed out, SOE was also obviously a big success, I was just under the impression that WN dwarfed it. Also, now that you mention it, I do remember reading an interview with Chris where he said something along the lines of "I don't know why people keep referring to this (White Noise) as a 'comeback' album, our last record was really quite successful in its own right".

Well, being from the UK I am in a similar situation to you. And I would not say that by any means TLE have been publicised much here. Not in the mainstream music press at any road. They played Reading and Leeds and got no mention of any note. I would not say White Noise has been any more successful here than SOE was. The only difference seems to be that they have been on 2 short tours in quick succession, rather and 2 short tours a year apart. They clearly want to make a name for themselves here, but with the shit state of affairs in the english music scene at the moment, I would say it would be a difficult nut to crack: in spite of their legions of fans.

I'm afraid to say that 'living in America' is no longer an excuse for not having a grasp of the aussie music scene. If you're into it, you can look it up. Sure, you can't attend the gigs- but you can find loads of amazing australian bands without much effort. You can get Australian radio stations through the interwebs - I have triple j streaming on my itunes, and I can get it through my phone too.

[Big J.G]

It may not have had the sales BUT it got them an Aria.

Their first since 1999.

[carrymehomestead]

It's not that I don't know anything about it....in some sense, I know as much as I want to know. But what I mean is, a band that is popular and/or based in my country of origin, its far easier for me to be able to say "oh well actually (insert record here) was far bigger, got a lot more publicity/big shows/whatever" because I experienced the promotion/reception of each album personally, instead of just guessing.

As far as actually uncovering the music itself, the internet kind of negates regional distances in that sense. Especially when I first got into TLE around 2000, Trav was always harping on about the Aussie spirit and how they have such a great music scene, but mostly I was dissapointed with other Aussie stuff I heard at the time (Area 7?? Fucking GRINSPOON???). Jebediah had a couple good tunes. All of it is better than the few bands that do seem to have broken here: Jet, Wolfmother....need I say more? Aussie invasion tour was quite interesting though...TLE OPENING for Jet (psssht) and The Vines headlining at the peak of Craig Nicholls mental decomposition.

[Joab]

They may be hate-filled Christmas Cards!

well played sir, post of the day :flowers:

[thelivingvines]

It's not that I don't know anything about it....in some sense, I know as much as I want to know. But what I mean is, a band that is popular and/or based in my country of origin, its far easier for me to be able to say "oh well actually (insert record here) was far bigger, got a lot more publicity/big shows/whatever" because I experienced the promotion/reception of each album personally, instead of just guessing.

As far as actually uncovering the music itself, the internet kind of negates regional distances in that sense. Especially when I first got into TLE around 2000, Trav was always harping on about the Aussie spirit and how they have such a great music scene, but mostly I was dissapointed with other Aussie stuff I heard at the time (Area 7?? Fucking GRINSPOON???). Jebediah had a couple good tunes. All of it is better than the few bands that do seem to have broken here: Jet, Wolfmother....need I say more? Aussie invasion tour was quite interesting though...TLE OPENING for Jet (psssht) and The Vines headlining at the peak of Craig Nicholls mental decomposition.

While I agree that it's harder to get an impression of publicity / promotion from another country - it's certainly easy to get a fair impression from people's discussion on the forum, the amount of videos being posted of performances from TV shows, whether a chat show, AFL or a Channel V special.

With the advent of spotify, and with the way itunes has developed... and to a certain extent myspace it has become increasingly easy to discover bands in a certain 'scene.' Most of my discovery of aussie music has ben through mentions of certain bands by Chris, Scot or Andy- and to a certain extent Chris and Nick cester and Craig Nicholls. I wouldn't have discovered the Silents if it wasn't for Craig. If I had to choose between the UK mainstream scene, the American mainstream scene, and the aussie scene - it would be aussie all the way. The UK is full of quirky try too hard indie types who all write the same crap, the US is full of nauseating generic pop punk trash- and finding any diamonds amongst that is neigh on impossible. That's my impression anyway.

I was actually at the Aussie invasion tour gigs in New York - it's where I discovered TLE. I would also happily say really like Jet, although I think their second album was a let down. But they do raw rock and roll really well. Point of fact: I'd say the peak of Craig's mental 'decomposition' came several months later when he insulted his own audience, kicked the camera out of a photographer's hand- and spent the next few months rebuilding his life and on valium. I have a video of the Irving Plaza gig and it was a good night for them (back then at least).

While I understand that breaking the US market is a very lucrative proposition - I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would throw money at trying to break the US now when the musical climate is not conducive to that kind of rock music at all. It's like peeing into the wind if you ask me.

[Amur]

TLE's biggest problem of all time is a constant lack of promotion anywhere outside Australia. That's it. When they play in Europe, for example...it seems to me that these gigs are only purposed to please old fans, without gathering new ones! No advertising, no publications in press...all that simple stuff just don't let them to become bigger despite all their talent, original sound and professionalism.:sleep:

So my article on TLE has been approved today, I feel fucking happy for that, cause it's one of the kind monthly music magazine with 70 000 of copies... But why I mention it once again? The idea is...if band can't promote themselves (no budget or lack of desire? :huh:) then fans can try to do that. I don't believe it's impossible to publish something about a band you love so much in order to help them gain more popularity in your country. Especially when you have so many music mags in USA and UK to choose from. :)

[thelivingvines]

Well put. It's no good playing, if new people aren't turning up to see them, right? I suppose playing Reading and Leeds was about as good a promotion as you could get from just playing a gig. Although, their place in the line up was terrible - between noah and the whale and the view? who the hell thought of that?!

They need a magazine like uncut, kerrang or NME (shudder) to pick them up, even if just for an article. It would do them a lot of good. But the UK music scene is too caught up in re-creating the god awful 80's right now to care unfortunately. It's disgusting.

[Amur]

Sooo, maybe one of you, UK citizens, will shoot an email to editorial staff? "May I write you an article|review|interview with TLE please-please-please?" :p
I won't even start complaining about all shit that russian press writes about, but you may be sure - that's much worse than UK's =) And still, I managed to do something here!

[thelivingvines]

I would love to. But I think the timing has to be right. I would wait until they are about to play some shows here so people feel more inclined to go check them out, rather than let months pass by and people forget they are coming.

[Amur]

Good then! But heey, they're playing in UK in december! So it's right about time to start doing something. It takes MONTHS, because almost each magazine has a queue of articles so maybe you're late already, haha. Just...don't wait for too long, ok? I regret that I didn't talk to that magazine month ago. If I had done that in time,I would have got more chances to see my article in november's issue - before gigs in helsinki and sweden where some russians usually travel to see cool bands. :dry:
Hurry up! :p

[tiny_kim]

So did White Noise actually come out in Canada this week? Because I can't find it anywhere.. :(

[AnnaSeptic]

I don't know, could be that they're just not into promoting themselves outside of Australia, especially not in the US/Canada/North America region, so none of the stores know who they are and just don't have the CD.
I can NEVER find TLE CDs in stores here.

It's a shame, they could be huge around the world if they tried.

[Big J.G]

I believe they could make it big there, most people recently over discovered The Living End in Guitar Hero World Tour. And considered that the best song in the game, mainly because the rest of the setlist was boring (Tokio Hotel anyone?)

Congratulations Guitar Hero, you exposed Australia's Secret.

Not that that's a bad thing.

[thelivingvines]

I don't know, could be that they're just not into promoting themselves outside of Australia, especially not in the US/Canada/North America region, so none of the stores know who they are and just don't have the CD.
I can NEVER find TLE CDs in stores here.

It's a shame, they could be huge around the world if they tried.

so they went to a recording studio in AMERICA, worked with an AMERICAN producer, had the album mixed and mastered by an AMERICAN.... and you don't think they want to promote themselves in North America?

'if they tried'.... isn't that a little insulting?

[Neo]

lol not promoting themselves outside of aus. which is why they have been in europe for how long?

[BlackKat73]

Ive still never seen a copy of "White Noise" out in PA. I had to get an aussie friend of mine to send a copy over here! haha