MODERN ARTillery songs live?? [Archive]

carrymehomestead

09-17-2009, 01:02 PM

When a band is touring in support of an album, they inevitably play more songs from that particular record than they will later on; even "deep album tracks" will often get a go. But by the time a new record(s) has been released and/or time has elapsed, generally only the singles/bigger hits from the album remain in the setlist...for example, on bootlegs from the S/T era you'll find some sweet performances of Have They Forgotten/Fly Away/Lone Ranger(!)...but Roll On and beyond, tunes like that don't get dusted off.

I understand that thats just the way it works, but I've noticed in particular that the Modern Artillery album seems to have the fewest of its songs performed live, and the ones that were played early on also disappeared the quickest from the setlists. The large majority of the sets I've seen since then ONLY contain Who's Gonna Save Us from MA.

Especially since (even by the band's admission) the album was hindered largely by the production and not the songs themselves, I'd really like to see at least a few of the songs brought into the live rotation where they belong...what do you guys think??? Wouldn't it be cool to again get to see tunes like Hold Up (with Chris/Andy call and answer bridge), What Would You Do, or Short Notice up close and personal? They seem to beg to be belted out in a raucous live environment...ok, maybe hoping for Short Notice is a stretch, but Hold Up was briefly a live staple and WWYD? was a popular a-side.

Also, speaking of tracks from the album that were played but were quickly declared MIA from setlists, does anyone know of any bootlegs etc. of the band playing Maitland Street (my personal album fav), Jimmy, or/and the above mentioned Short Notice?? I'd be much obliged, even if someone could just confirm that some recorded copy exists. Tracks 7, 9, 11, and 12 have never been touched live, and the rest other than those three have at least one commonly findable live copy.

Sorry if this is a boring ramble... :)

wck14

09-17-2009, 01:07 PM

maitland street, jimmy, in the end, hold up, short notice... oh my just one of them would be such a pleasant surprise.

however they have been playing end of the world on their recent tours.

TaylorLovesChrisCheneyx

09-17-2009, 01:14 PM

Maitland Street and Short Notice.
I really want to see those two songs live, would be awesome. :sleep:

Chovies

09-17-2009, 01:16 PM

End of the world was played on the Raise the Alarm gigs.

TaylorLovesChrisCheneyx

09-17-2009, 01:18 PM

Yeah, they played End Of The World at the Hisense gig.
Pretty awesome! :)

carrymehomestead

09-17-2009, 01:19 PM

Glad somebody shares my enthusiasm!! I agree, even just any one track thrown into the set to mix things up would put a deranged unmovable grin on my face.

And as for End of the World being back in the sets...thats awesome!! That song took a while to grow on me, I felt at first like it was Living End TRYING to sound like Living End, almost like a self-parody....still kinda feel that way, but in a GOOD way! :laugh:

EDIT: I caught the VERY end of Maitland Street once, the Aussie Invasion tour back in 03 did two nights back to back at Irving Plaza in New York City, I had tickets for the first day, and managed to get in at the last minute for the second night through someone who had a pass. TLE went on first, so they had already played a bunch of tunes when I strolled in...It took a while for it to register that they were ACTUALLY playing Maitland Street...they threw it in to change the set a little since it was 2 nights in a row, same place. I should've taped!!!!

Shadow

09-17-2009, 01:25 PM

carrymehomestead

09-17-2009, 02:05 PM

I had a low-quality (i think a 'hold shitty tape recorder over head in crowd' bootleg) mp3 of Short Notice live from when they were touring MA, but it must've gotten deleted/lost...I didn't know what I had! :( It sounded off without that electronic glitch-beat intro, but I'm sure it would've been worked out live if they had played it a bit more, like some other tunes that fumbled at their debuts (Tabloid Magazine comes to mind).

And Shadow, I think you're right about "So What"...I think I remember a video on Youtube or somewhere, it was filmed during SOE support I think, but it was a very short, totally distorted camera clip composed of fuzz, semi-vocals, and crowd noise. Still better than nothing...I'm gonna try and find it right now.

EDIT: Here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_USiq7qCJU

Another Edit: Btw, how do you change it when you post a link so that, for example, it would just say 'So What' live instead of saying www. blah blah dee blah, but still take you to the same place??

Wild Turkey

09-17-2009, 02:41 PM

Surely they've played So What? live... I seem to remember a video floating around on YouTube. They got an extra guitar player out on stage to do it, too.

TBH, In The End would be pretty cool live. I didn't know they'd played Maitland, or Short Notice, though!

Pretty Positive so what has been pl;ayed live.

I think it was played on the FHOI tour, very positive of this have a recording somewhere, has a sweet as intro, great great song very country very differernt but fantastic.

And i too love maitland street, but im sure it has only been played live on the rarest occasions.

Would love some bootles but chances are slim i feel.

Good Thread Mate

Big J.G

09-17-2009, 03:22 PM

Chovies

09-17-2009, 03:42 PM

Another Edit: Btw, how do you change it when you post a link so that, for example, it would just say 'So What' live instead of saying www. blah blah dee blah, but still take you to the same place??

You type this in

The * half way through is just so the link dosn't work, you put a ] in if you want it to.

Should turn out like this:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_USiq7qCJU]So What (add link here*Add what you want link to say here[/url)

Big J.G

09-17-2009, 04:08 PM

BTW, Jimmy Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCk3uB5PnXM

Shadow

09-17-2009, 04:29 PM

I remember a video on Youtube or somewhere, it was filmed during SOE support

Looks like that video you linked to is the one - reading through the comments suggest it was filmed on the 23rd October, 2004.

Shadow

09-17-2009, 04:35 PM

Speaking of The Room live, I have a recording... I recorded it onto cassette tape / walkman at the first Melbourne show of the SOE tour and while it's obviously not going to be soundboard quality, it's definitely listenable. I'm just not sure whether or not I should share it given that it was pulled from the DVD, but I'd love to be able to. There's extra soloing over the end, as opposed to the album version fade-out.

Big J.G

09-17-2009, 04:45 PM

You're allowed to share any bootlegs, as long as the song has been released so you can buy it.
And you can't share any songs that haven't been released.

So, The Room has been released on a CD, you can share any bootleg.

FlyingV

09-17-2009, 04:55 PM

Yup, I definitley remember the Room being played at festival Hall. I remember feeling like the only one who enjoyed it :laugh:

paulvroc

09-17-2009, 06:04 PM

I know for sure that Jimmy was played because there is a vid of it on youtube under sarah's account "bobrox" or something like that.

They played The Room during their All States of Emergency tour, it wasn't on Festival Hall was because it was cut from the dvd, along with We Want More and Tabloid Magazine.

Terrible, I want to see it.

such a massive sore point with me that those three songs were cut from the dvd.
apparently they were of 'insufficient quality', but come on, The Room that night was so epic, i want to see that footage!!

Colezy

09-17-2009, 06:12 PM

You type this in

The * half way through is just so the link dosn't work, you put a ] in if you want it to.

Should turn out like this:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_USiq7qCJU"]So What (add link here*Add what you want link to say here[/url)

Or just type the word you want the link to be (EG: So What), then highlight it and click on the 'Inset Link' button and paste the link! That way there's no need to remember what to type :)

Anywho.

Colezy

09-17-2009, 06:13 PM

such a massive sore point with me that those three songs were cut from the dvd.
apparently they were of 'insufficient quality', but come on, The Room that night was so epic, i want to see that footage!!
I thought it sounded pretty average..something just wasn't right...

The Dying Start

09-17-2009, 06:20 PM

Jimmy was played on Detour, as JG has posted. So What was part of the Acoustic set during the FHOI tour. Hold Up and End Of The World definately need a comeback though.

Sarah

09-17-2009, 06:24 PM

I know for sure that Jimmy was played because there is a vid of it on youtube under sarah's account "bobrox" or something like that.

They played The Room during their All States of Emergency tour, it wasn't on Festival Hall was because it was cut from the dvd, along with We Want More and Tabloid Magazine.

Terrible, I want to see it.

Yep. They played Jimmy at the Livid shows too(and something is wrong with me cos I can't remember if they played it at Gone South too...I'm so old). Oh, and EOTW, Hold Up, and others.

BTW, Jimmy Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCk3uB5PnXM

thanks for linking BigJAG ;)

And yeah, they played So What at the Palace FHOI show also I think :)

Shadow

09-17-2009, 06:30 PM

Well... Glenn, old bean - if I send you my recording of The Room, would you host it on 23rdPrecinct for the masses?

Colezy

09-17-2009, 06:31 PM

Don't think they played it at Gone South.

But I didn't really take much notice of set lists back then, so maybe they did :p

Chovies

09-17-2009, 06:38 PM

Or just type the word you want the link to be (EG: So What), then highlight it and click on the 'Inset Link' button and paste the link! That way there's no need to remember what to type :)

Anywho.

Oh fair enough, The other forum where i learnt that diddn't have anything like that haha. Thanks :)

Ben reed

09-17-2009, 07:56 PM

Well... Glenn, old bean - if I send you my recording of The Room, would you host it on 23rdPrecinct for the masses?

:D
what he said glenn!
that would be fantastic if you guys did that!

May

09-18-2009, 01:35 AM

I seem to recall 'Maitland Street' being played at Offshore 2000, although I'm sure I've seen it played somewhere since then, 'Jimmy' being played at the LATW 2000, & 'So What'... maybe at the Mornington gig of the MA (?) tour... :blink: But they've definately been played.

carrymehomestead

09-18-2009, 08:32 AM

When Maitland Street was played at Offshore, it was still the work-in-progress middle section of "Silent Victory"...it's sort of become the holy grail of TLE bootlegs for me, I'd love to hear it, but I'm sure no recording exists. Apparently it was what became the chorus section of Maitland, used in Silent Victory...the verses were written later, post 9/11, as that was the inspiration.

Wild Turkey

09-18-2009, 10:14 AM

Shadow

09-18-2009, 10:27 AM

Chovies

09-18-2009, 01:33 PM

Wild Turkey

09-18-2009, 02:35 PM

Maybe if we just create a time machine !

Random fact, A time machine has never been invented of it because they would obviously have gone back in time and theres no records of such a thing happening :p

Your Time Machine Statement Really Confuses Me :wassat:

Big J.G

09-18-2009, 04:52 PM

Not necessarily.

It wont change a thing in the present, that was the past, go back in the past it will change for them, not us.

Wild Turkey

09-18-2009, 06:01 PM

But It could still change for us, like if they mess something up back then but then we wouldnt even know, unless it happens from here on in, if it happened 100 years ago it would just be regular reality for us now, but if something happens tommorow in our time which really is years and years ahead in the linear time line then an instant change could be intermediat, thus us knowing and realising the sudden effects.

Have Fun Trying too work my post out

carrymehomestead

09-26-2009, 02:13 PM

Wasn't this version with those two combined titled "Before The Eyes Of The Sun" or something similar?

Delayed post reaction, but "Before The Eyes Of The Sun" was actually a different song, it was played live a few times in 1999, and then abandoned. On my old, old computer I had an audience tape recording of it that someone was kind enough to send me, but unfortunately I lost it...it was of extremely low quality (SOUND quality that is ;) ) but it'd still be cool to have. I just remember the chorus going "Before the eyes!! *bum bum* Before the eyes! *bum bum* before the eyesssss of the sunnnnnn"...descriptive, I know, eh??

Chovies

09-26-2009, 05:13 PM

Well i would have never guessed the chorus was like that looking at the song title:p

Loaded-Gun

10-04-2009, 08:28 PM

So uhh, is glennn gonna put that live version of the room on 23rd? or come someone post a downlaod link for it? i'd love to hear it, it was my favourite TLE song for months :)

Colezy

10-05-2009, 08:57 PM

Glenn isn't in the country at the moment, so you'll have to wait a little longer :)

Mogle

10-05-2009, 10:24 PM

It's on youtube somewhere, just not the best quality.

Kev

10-05-2009, 11:26 PM

Maybe if we just create a time machine !

Random fact, A time machine has never been invented of it because they would obviously have gone back in time and theres no records of such a thing happening :p

:Shakes Head:

http://www.core.form-ula.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/back-2-the-future.jpg

mattheal

10-05-2009, 11:37 PM

*slow claps*

also here is as good as anywhere to mention that i want to get gran turismo for the psp just so i can drive the delorean :p

Loaded-Gun

10-06-2009, 04:21 PM

Glenn isn't in the country at the moment, so you'll have to wait a little longer :)

Oh okayy, where did he go? how long is he gone for?

Chovies

10-06-2009, 06:13 PM

The land of the sheep rooters ( But you know any N.Z's here don't of course :devil:)

carrymehomestead

10-08-2009, 09:57 AM

wait, people who fuck sheep?

Kacky

10-08-2009, 11:36 AM

Congratulations, you win the prize! :p

worry_rock

10-08-2009, 01:33 PM

Hold Up and End Of The World definately need a comeback though.

They were both played on recent tours. And by recent I mean sometime in the last 2-3 years or so, as I haven't actually seen TLE in quite some time...

I think it was at the shows at The Palace/Palais (my memory is failing me).

Hold Up was bloody brilliant live.

Colezy

10-08-2009, 01:57 PM

End Of The World was played at the Stray Cats gig, from memory.

Chovies

10-08-2009, 02:00 PM

And Raise the Alarm tour ( i think ive already posted that :blink:)

Wild Turkey

10-08-2009, 04:34 PM

They were both played on recent tours. And by recent I mean sometime in the last 2-3 years or so, as I haven't actually seen TLE in quite some time...

I think it was at the shows at The Palace/Palais (my memory is failing me).

Hold Up was bloody brilliant live.

Yes they were both played there on different nights though the U18 SEP 21 Got Hold Up

worry_rock

10-09-2009, 10:55 AM

Ha, yeah I went on both nights and got the setlist from both :)

One night got End Of The World and one got Hold Up, I'm pretty sure.

carrymehomestead

10-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Hold Up was especially cool live, cos it was the closest Andy came to having a Travis-esque "oi I'm a fookin' right awesome skin-thumper eh? now watch me spontaneously burst into drum solo" moment, when him and Chris did the call and answer middle section. My only complaint was that at the end of the middle bit, when they go "luck came undone (DONE!!) as we jumped the gun (GUN!!)" they didn't do the Scott Owen-yelling-and-sounding-like-4-dudes-at-once backups, they just left a gap. Nitpicker, though, eh?

edit: Whilst (again) on the topic of older live songs, was From Here On In ever played again after BDO 2003?? The whole thing, not as part of the medley (which I don't believe it was part of). It was great to hear someone play the beat in the proper syncopation.

The Dying Start

10-09-2009, 07:16 PM

Played it at least once in 2004. But not since then i don't think.

Loaded-Gun

10-21-2009, 07:39 PM

So uhh glen :) do you want to put that live version of "the room" on 23rd precint? pleease :)

Amur

10-21-2009, 07:44 PM

Hold Up...maybe I'll hear that live one day. Always wanted after watching FHOI DVD.:wub:

Loaded-Gun

10-21-2009, 07:54 PM

yeah that would be SO good live :)

Kacky

10-22-2009, 04:15 AM

We should convince them in Germany, Yana!

residentrocker93

10-23-2009, 10:01 PM

What about putting you down? I haven't heard it live and even though its a bit of a mid song it has a good lead line. guess it would sound weird without two guitars or something :wacko:

TaylorLovesChrisCheneyx

10-23-2009, 11:47 PM

Hold Up...maybe I'll hear that live one day. Always wanted after watching FHOI DVD.:wub:

Same here.
I love Hold Up.
Would be awesome as live. :)

carrymehomestead

10-24-2009, 05:16 PM

Yeah it's great live, they just need to keep the screaming in the "luck came undone..DONE! as we jumped the gun...GUN!!!" part...as mentioned before. It just AIN'T THE SAME without it!!!

PUT THE MONEY IN THE BAG!!!!!!!

Easily one of if not THE top song on MA.

Putting You Down just sounds like reheated Santana riffs to me, not so big on it. Plus Chris calls it a "moh-bye-uhl phone" in the lyrics instead of a cell phone (as all UK folks do I imagine) which is just silly to me.

Habibster

10-24-2009, 06:01 PM

Yeah, in Australia (and the UK i would therefore assume) its mobile phone. It would sound weird to my ears, and most other Australians, if Chris said cell phone. It would kinda be a sign of the Americanisation of Australia too.

Loaded-Gun

10-24-2009, 06:57 PM

And Cell Phone Wouldn't Fit. "Forgot your adress and your "Ce-e-el Phone" its just not right:p

Big J.G

10-26-2009, 04:15 PM

You don't seem to comment the Uncle Harry lyrics "Spends most weekends up the pub, drinking what he earnt that week"

I don't think that "bar" would work for that, maybe it will.

Kacky

10-26-2009, 04:18 PM

I just sang that line in my head, and I think bar would fit, sort of.

carrymehomestead

10-29-2009, 09:52 AM

Well, actually, even just using the phrase "up the" (instead of at the, or up AT the) to describe someone's location is a UK thing that would confuse a lot of Yanks...being an Anglophile I'm familiar with it. Even though I know it's not true, I always liked to distinguish between "bars" and "pubs" by thinking of a pub as a place that in addition to alcohol, offers a food menu with actual meals you could order rather than just peanuts, a restaurant type of feel, and a more socially relaxed atmosphere, pool tables, etc. A bar in my head is JUST drinks hard and fast, possibly with annoying flashing lights and dance music and people who can't hold their alcohol.

Also, I do remember a long period where people (I'm sure there are still some out there) were convinced that the chorus of Uncle Harry scolded him for "pissing in the barrrrr" rather than the bath. Eh??!!

Amur

10-29-2009, 05:56 PM

Also, I do remember a long period where people (I'm sure there are still some out there) were convinced that the chorus of Uncle Harry scolded him for "pissing in the barrrrr" rather than the bath. Eh??!!
Was it in Dark Ages when album booklets with written lyrics haven't been invented yet?;)

The Dying Start

10-29-2009, 07:08 PM

They must've been some prime weirdos. I don't remember any confusion!

Big J.G

10-29-2009, 11:47 PM

It'd throw you off because it sounds like some sort of brawl at a pub at the start of the song, but yeah, I don't think Pissing In The Bar has anything to do with Harry Losing his Mind, not Pissing in a Bar is like going on YouTube and Not Watching Videos. It's the main reason to visit such things, but it is not the only reason. I go on YouTube to watch videos mainly, but also to view comments and messages.

Pissing is a term for Drinkin isn't it? I might get some sort of confusion, like you are "on the piss" so you are "pissing"

carrymehomestead

10-30-2009, 04:56 PM

Wait....is it??!!! That would change everything!!! I always thought they were basically saying he gets so drunk he can't control his bodily functions, resulting in him uncontrollably urinating in the bath. But if by "pissing" they mean drinking, I guess it could be hes even got a drink in his hand when hes in the tub, hes "pissing in the bath" but that would seem like a silly thing for people to get so mad at him for.

Big J.G

10-30-2009, 04:57 PM

Yeah, but it was a confusion of "Pissing in the Bar"

Isn't a Bar a place to drink?

Pissing in the Bath is a personal problem when it comes to Urination, but when it comes to drinking, not so much.

carrymehomestead

10-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Was it in Dark Ages when album booklets with written lyrics haven't been invented yet?;)

Haha, believe it or not, even with the lyrics readily available, there are still plenty of dolts out there who seem oblivious to their existence...

Big J.G

10-30-2009, 05:00 PM

Even the Vinyls have the written lyrics on an inside cardboard piece, my Self Titled Album Vinyl came in today, dissapointing that it wasn't sealed like my others, but its still a good item to have!

carrymehomestead

10-30-2009, 05:00 PM

Yeah, but it was a confusion of "Pissing in the Bar"

Isn't a Bar a place to drink?

Pissing in the Bath is a personal problem when it comes to Urination, but when it comes to drinking, not so much.

.....Wait what??

The Dying Start

10-30-2009, 06:44 PM

Who on earth uses the phrase "I'm going to go piss in the bar", and means that they're going to get drunk? No one. EVER.

Chovies

10-30-2009, 08:05 PM

Yea isnt the song sorta like a joke/muck around song ( like Greendays King for a day ). So i doubt it would be the drinking style.

Big J.G

10-30-2009, 08:22 PM

I never said that it was commonly used, but it could work.

The song is a joke song yeah, they should do that a little more often.

The Dying Start

10-30-2009, 09:33 PM

No, it's deadly serious.

Big J.G

10-31-2009, 02:26 AM

Whatever, it's still humourous.

They should do some humourous songs, maybe a cover of Toxic by Britney Spears!

Colezy

10-31-2009, 03:27 AM

...or not. Why you suggest such things, I'll never know.

Big J.G

10-31-2009, 11:21 AM

..I was joking.

The Dying Start

10-31-2009, 12:15 PM

...maybe a cover of Toxic by Britney Spears!

Britney Spears can't even sing her songs live, let alone the synth hooks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5cIlj31ods

carrymehomestead

10-31-2009, 01:15 PM

"Baby I'm-A Want You" was a humorous cover...I mean that song was horrible, so it pretty much had no choice but to be

Sarah

10-31-2009, 02:06 PM

Britney Spears can't even sing her songs live, let alone the synth hooks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5cIlj31ods

haha, that was awesome!

reminded me of this from about 3.40 in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4PMHt7vSE8&feature=related)

on topic: wonder what MA songs they'll do at Stonefest?

carrymehomestead

10-31-2009, 04:16 PM

Oh mannn The Fifth Element!! I always thought that Alien opera sequence was one of the funniest parts of the movie, especially because it definitely wasn't intended to be humorous. It starts all serious and dramatic and then out of nowhere they serve up a heaping helping of cinematic ".....wtf???!!" Still can't top the part right after that which is basically just Chris Tucker wailing like a frightened 6 year old girl for 3 minutes. Ah, crappy movie memories.

As for wondering about MA songs at Stonefest, I don't know exactly what it is, but I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here and assume it's a festival of some sort. If that is in fact the case, festival sets always some degree more generic, because they're playing to a broader audience who may not be as familiar with their back catalog...I'd expect Who's Gonna Save Us, and MAYBE one other tune, likely either End Of The World, Hold Up, or Tabloid Magazine (although what from I understand the latter hasn't been dusted off in some time, it used to be the expected 'not WGSU' song from MA to hear live.