Long songs. The Room

[Moose]

The Room is one of my fave TLE tunes. Not sure how in fashion it is on these boards, but I like it.

There is something special for me about a great song longer than 4 or 5 minutes - You can get really lost in them. Personal faves include

Johnny Was - SLF
Jesus of Surburbia - Green Day
Jimmy Sharman's Boxers - Midnight Oil

Anyone got any similar favourites? - not extended remixes though.

[Armistice]

Metallica's Black album- no song under 4:30mins; Master of Puppets- no song under 5mins

I only have Black, and I like it

[Grumma]

Iced Earth
- Dante's Inferno 17+mins
- The Coming Curse 9mins
- Burnt Offerings 7mins22secs

Iron Maiden
- Rime Of The Ancient Mariner 13 n a half mins
- Dream Of Mirrors 9 n a half mins
- The Nomad 9mins
- Hallowed Be Thy Name 7 mins

Metallica
- Master Of Puppets 9mins
- One 8 mins

Tool
- Ticks And Leeches 8mins
- Lateralus 9mins

DragonForce - soldiers of the wasteland 9:45

Manowar - the triumph of steel 28mins

Mercyful Fate - satan's fall 11:23

eh that'll do for now

[Aaron]

Flogging Molly - Black Friday Rule [Live, Whiskey On A Sunday] (11:57). The studio version is 7 minutes.

Any solo by John Butler will go for days.

I like The Room, too.

[Grumma]

I still think I'm gonna win ^_^

[kelso]

yeah The Room is def. one of my faves too

ya JOS is awesome
but I like Homecoming better :rolleyes:

[Kev]

In The Garden Of Eden, by Iron Butterfly :p It took up one side of a record.

The Mars Volta - Lvia Lviaquez (sp) 13 odd minutes

[Grumma]

Haha yeah that's the second longest song on my iTunes aside from the Manowar one

[Disease]

The Room.

Pretty much anything by Metallica. :D

Pretty much anything by Pink Floyd. :D

Lots of NIN and Radiohead masterpieces I can't think of right now. :p

And I can't wait for Those Thieving Birds on Silverchair's new record.

[Macccca]

butterflies and huricanes
betterman
it's a fast driving rave-up with the dandy warhols
champagne supernova
ball and a biscuit

[Colezy]

And I can't wait for Those Thieving Birds on Silverchair's new record.
I can't wait for the whole record! :p :D

Ummmm, The Roooooom, Jesus of Surburbia - Green Day, which is one of only a few of their later releases which I like, ummmm, there's a song by Harry Chapin that I like...it's about Bananas..can't remember what its called though.

*edit - It's called Thirty Thousand Pounds of Bananas! :D

[GoodOrEvil]

Albuquerque - Weird Al Yankovic

>.>

[Grumma]

System of a Down - 36

[Kacky]

yeah The Room is def. one of my faves too

ya JOS is awesome
but I like Homecoming better :rolleyes:

About the same. :D

I'm trying to think of some other songs that are long, but I'm having a total mind blank.

[Disease]

I can't wait for the whole record! :p :D

Well.. me too.. but this is a thread about long songs. ;)

[Disease]

betterman
champagne supernova

I wouldn't have really labelled either of those as particularly long songs.... but ok.

[Grumma]

Yeah; they're nowhere near as long as System of a Down's 36 . ..

Sheesh

[Kev]

I wouldn't have really labelled either of those as particularly long songs.... but ok.



I am assuming that Betterman is the John Butler track. It stops in around the 8minute mark, but the American version only goes for 4 minutes.


When I saw JBT at his own gig away from a festival, he was boring as batshit. He played take, which is about 11 minutes on the album, the guitar noodling intro went for 11 mins then he played the song which went even longer.

I didn't stick around for it. I left. But friends stayed. they were right into it.

[Grumma]

There's only so long that one guitarist that plays one style can be entertaining for

[Jodez]

all i can think of right now is JOS and Homecoming

[damo0945]

homecomings awesome!

the decline by nofx, 18 minutes 7 seconds i think, only heard it once tho

[Grumma]

Writing songs of that length are pretty difficult.

I know on the LOTR thing Im doin there's a few that are up around 7, 8 mins. Then the first track is about 9; but 5 minutes of that is sampling

[Neo]

Highway Star - Deep Purple (6:08) (live versions are much longer :D) and The Mule but I dont know how long that goes for (it says 5:90 which is obviously wrong)
and of course... Stairway To Heaven - Led Zeppelin (8:02)
I like Moby Dick too, but it goes toooo long and I get bored. The beginning is the best part.

[Grumma]

ladies and gentleman; Moby Dick!

[E.B.]

The Call of Ktulu - Metallica
that's one kick arse instrumental

[Johnny_Wah]

Homecoming - Green Day

The Room

Stairway to Heaven

Black Dog

:cool:

[The Dying Start]

None of you dicks have said American Pie - Don MacLean yet. Fuck!

And also

Metallica - The Four Horsemen
GreenDay - JOS/Homecoming
Jamie Cullum - High & Dry [Live](12.14)
The Wrights - Evie
Mad Heads XL - Otruta [Live](9.34)
The Brian Setzer Orchestra - Rock This Town[Live] (8.30)
The Living End - All Torn Down [Live] (9min+)

[worry_rock]

Completely unrelated, but I am in love with Glenn's new sig.

[Neo]

None of you dicks have said American Pie - Don MacLean yet. Fuck!
I've heard that song so many times it is has become rather annoying.... everytime the radio is on, it's playing on WSFM. :p

[Neryssah]

the decline by nofx, 18 minutes 7 seconds i think, only heard it once tho

Amen. I fucking love that song.

[Grumma]

The Call of Ktulu - Metallica
that's one kick arse instrumental

+1

Also a mention to Orion (the instrumental on Master of Puppets) and also The Crusade (final song on Trivium album of same title)

[Johnny_Wah]

Is that the one with all the crazy harmonised tapping? 'Coz that one's hip jive, turkey.

[Grumma]

The Trivium one?

Yeah I think it might be.

[Johnny_Wah]

Yeah Trivium. I heard a bit of that at a friend's place. Sounds good.

Now I want the cd.

[Grumma]

Yeah its about 3/4 of the way through the song if my memory serves me correct

[Julian]

Quality over quantity. A 5 minute song can be just as much of an epic as a 20 min one

[shane]

Beaded Curtains (Part 2) by Frenzal Rhomb is totally epic!

[Disease]

I am assuming that Betterman is the John Butler track. It stops in around the 8minute mark, but the American version only goes for 4 minutes.
I was thinking the Pearl Jam song.. but yeah.


Quality over quantity. A 5 minute song can be just as much of an epic as a 20 min one
You're right there. But no one ever said it couldn't.

[Grumma]

Beaded Curtains (Part 2) by Frenzal Rhomb is totally epic!

is it just me or would Frenzal Rhomb and epic be an oxymoron?

[damo0945]

Amen. I fucking love that song.

is it worth the 21 dollars for the cd at jb hifi?

[mel_bound]

is it just me or would Frenzal Rhomb and epic be an oxymoron?

You're silly :rolleyes:

learrrnnn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_Family)

[Burner]

I'm learing.

[Julian]

Towards what?

[Grumma]

That's why i said it Mel :p

[Julian]

Is learing even a word?

[Grumma]

I think it might be.

Though I'm not sure if that's the spelling

*edit* no it's "leering"

[Julian]

Well there you go

[Burner]

In all honesty I meant to say 'learning' which you make a bit more sense. I'm a spastic on the keyboard tonight.

[Julian]

If you spelt it right, then I wouldn't have learnt how to spell leering!

[mel_bound]

..Long songs generally shit me to tears.. The Room and Muse songs are good though.

Anyone heard Haitian Fight Song by Charles Mingus? 12 minutes... :|

[Grumma]

What's wrong with long songs?

Are are you one of those short attention spanned persons SOAD were talking about when they split Mesmerize and Hypnotize?

[mel_bound]

What's wrong with long songs?

Are are you one of those short attention spanned persons SOAD were talking about when they split Mesmerize and Hypnotize?
Nothing

and yes I most certainly am!

[Grumma]

Damn kids these days :p

[damo0945]

yeah i have a fairly short attention span too, some movies are hard work!

[Evil Chris]

Iced Earth - The Coming Curse

The Living End - The Room

Guns N' Roses - November Rain

The Doors - The End

[Strider]

I don't mind long songs as long as they have substance. Some long songs are just...long for the sake of it. I mean, if the song is shite, why keep it going? haha

[Jake]

Dream Theater have a song that is 41mins (approx). On the CD it plays as a single song - and should be so - but when ripped, it comes at 6 separate tracks too. They sound good separate, but it's something special listening to the whole piece.

Godspeed! You Black Emperor also have 20mins+ songs. Really good stuff, I usually study to it, it's good and chilled.

Classical pieces are amazing too.

[Moose]

Cheers for all the thoughts - might check a few of these out.

I would have to say that my definition of a long song would not be

Something merely extended by lots of guitar noodling
Anything new agey

As for Metallica anything that just goes

CHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKA, BOVINE SINGING, WOOOARRGHH TYPE SHOUTING, GUITAR WIDDLING, LOTS OF GENERALISED COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR LOT IN LIFE

Doesn't really cut it for me, but 'One' is good. Bless 'em.

Thought of a few others though

The Stranglers 'Down in the Sewer' is a good one
The Alarm 'Spirit of 76' is a bit corny but good.
RATM 'Freedom' kind of qualifies.

Any others?

[stray_cat]

1 Word

FREEBIRD

[Neo]

1 Word

FREEBIRD

:eek: Yay :D I love Freebird.

[Moose]

Good one - Freebird is right up there

Naturally this is what the net does best

http://www.dprp.net/longsongs/longsongs.php

Has a list of songs over 15 minutes long.

This Finnish [weird Finnish] forum has a thread devoted to this also

http://homokaasu.org/forum/thread.gas?ThreadID=881

[Grumma]

As for Metallica anything that just goes

CHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKACHUNKA, BOVINE SINGING, WOOOARRGHH TYPE SHOUTING, GUITAR WIDDLING, LOTS OF GENERALISED COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR LOT IN LIFE

Doesn't really cut it for me, but 'One' is good. Bless 'em.



You my friend are an idiot

And Jamie; there's a few doom metal albums where one song makes up the entire album; and they don't split up either.
And GoodOrEvil you might as well count the entire Something Wicked Trilogy as one song; that'd make it over 20 minutes long

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

ASHES.i like it when nobody understands what im talking about.

[Steph Format]

I don't mind long songs as long as they have substance. Some long songs are just...long for the sake of it. I mean, if the song is shite, why keep it going? haha

I agree with Strider, for once :eek:

there's a lot of long-ass prog-rock songs that aren't particularly epic, just a bunch of dudes jerking off through solos. I don't care how fast someone can type notes into a guitar.

that said, I like:
The Hurricane - Bob Dylan (8:34)
Heroin - Velvet Underground (7:12)
The Hole In Your Roof - Augie March (7:12)
The Mariner's Revenge Song - the Decemberists (8:45)

[Grumma]

Prog rock or Prog metal?

Cos prog rock is like Pink Floyd; and I wouldn't say they tap countless notes.
And then prog rock bands like Tool don't even use solos

[Steph Format]

ah my bad.

I'm thinking of stuff like Dream Theater, sorry to anyone who likes them - no really, I am sorry for you.

[Caity]

Downfall - Matchbox 20.
Not super long but I love it. Bite me.

[Jawn]

I'm with the people who couldn't really care whether a song is long or not. I listen to a fair bit of long songs, but the length of a song doesn't really determine whether I would like it or not.

Some longer songs off the top of my head that Im loving are:

I don't know what you come to do- Robert Randolph and the Family Band
The Island- The Decemberists
The Crane Wife 1 and 2- The Decemberists
Little Wing- Stevie Ray Vaughn's version
B.B King- Sweet Little Angel
Bob Dylan- Nettie Moore

[Disease]

Downfall - Matchbox 20.
Not super long but I love it. Bite me.
Oh yes. Good song. :)

[Grumma]

Iced Earth - The Coming Curse


Including the first 2 parts; the Something Wicked Trilogy is 20 minutes and 7 seconds long

[Burner]

A Change Of Season by Dream Theatre goes over 23 minutes. Some parts sounds like they are on drugs.

[Grumma]

They probably are :p

[Sofia]

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Babe I'm On Fire. It's basically 15 minutes of him yelling about who thinks he's great.

[Burner]

Metallica's Black album- no song under 4:30mins; Master of Puppets- no song under 5mins

I only have Black, and I like it

My god how you are wrong.

Holier Than Thou - 3:37
Don't Tread On Me - 4:00
Through The Never - 4:04
Of Wolf And Man - 4:16
The Struggle Within - 3:55

7 songs are over, 5 under. I guess more than half are over. Nice try though.

[Burner]

They probably are :p

Indeed. Have you seen his drum kit? Its insane.

[Grumma]

lawl.

Pwned

*edit* yeah I have; I posted pics of it in the drummers thread (Musician's corner)

[Burner]

Oh wait, of course you have seen it,! your Grumma!

[Grumma]

The Drummer ;)

Bigger=better

[Burner]

hehe that ryhmes. I'm sure there are limits on these sorts of things! He needs 2 seats to reach all the bangy things for fucks sake!

[Evil Chris]

Including the first 2 parts; the Something Wicked Trilogy is 20 minutes and 7 seconds long

Well I suppose the whole trilogy. And prophecy would be a long song, it is 6 minutes long.

[Grumma]

Yeah 5:44 or something like that.

Birth of the Wicked is over 4 mins and it's the shortest of the 3.

And yeah I tend to agree that Portnoy's kit is a tad over the top.

[Burner]

Only a tad? your insane aswell Grumma! (http://www.chris-watson.com/gear_gallery/gear_gallery1/images/Mike%20Portnoy,%20Dream%20Theater_his%20kit!%20In% 20here%20only%20because%20it%20makes%20me%20smile! _jpg.jpg)

[Grumma]

Yeah just a tad.

I find it ironic that he'd make an instructional video though; what kind of person has a drumkit like that?

[Bec]

Only a tad? your insane aswell Grumma! (http://www.chris-watson.com/gear_gallery/gear_gallery1/images/Mike%20Portnoy,%20Dream%20Theater_his%20kit!%20In% 20here%20only%20because%20it%20makes%20me%20smile! _jpg.jpg)

HOLY SHIT!
Why does he need so many drums and cymbols? How can he even reach them all?

[Grumma]

By changing to one of the 3 thrones he has :p

[Bec]

That's some crazy shit.
I have enough trouble coping with a normal sized drumkit.

[Grumma]

lol Yeah well . . .

[Grumma]

SlipKnoT - iowa.

Goes for 15mins, and Wait and Bleed aside would probably be close to their best song

[Moose]

You my friend are an idiot

And Jamie; there's a few doom metal albums where one song makes up the entire album; and they don't split up either.
And GoodOrEvil you might as well count the entire Something Wicked Trilogy as one song; that'd make it over 20 minutes long

Lighten up - being polite won't hurt you.

They are just a band and lets face it they can parody themselves without any help from me. And that would stand up in court.

CHUNKACHUNKANAWNAW.

[Grumma]

What on Earth are you on about?

You're claiming that one of the most successful bands of the last 20 years parody themselves?

[Grumma]

Anyway another couple of songs:

Rage Against the Machine - wake up 6:04 longest song that I know of that using rapping vocals

Static-X are also known to begin shows with extensive programmed songs

[tainted_love]

Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 1-7) - Pink Floyd 17:32
Sister Rat - The Velvet Underground - 17:27
Marquee Moon - Television - 10:40
Torn Curtain - Television - 6:56


and obviously....

Stairway to Heaven!

[Grumma]

Kashmir goes for 2 minutes longer :p

[Johnny_Wah]

Kashmir is way to repetative. Stairway kicks its ass.

The longest song on Fallout Boy's new album goes for 4:03.

Hmf.

[Grumma]

There's only so much you can do with a 3 piece . ..

No wait FallOutBoy are 4 piece . . .
No excuse there

[damo0945]

i think i would have trouble listening to fallout boy for that long all at once :P

[Grumma]

lol well their single seems like it goes for ages and I doubt that's very long

[Aaron]

There's only so much you can do with a 3 piece
Uh, which band forum are you on?

[Johnny_Wah]

Wind him up Aaron!

Boom.

[Burner]

Uh, which band forum are you on?

The Living End are a 4 piece.



*shifty eyes*

[Jake]

Opeth has some amazing stuff - ranging from 6-12 mins or so.

Nightwish - Ghost Love Score ~10 mins. There are extensive sections of the London Session Orchestra (some of which were also doing Lord of the Rings score) - it's damn near amazing.

[Moose]

What on Earth are you on about?

You're claiming that one of the most successful bands of the last 20 years parody themselves?

Are you a bit dense as well as unfriendly?

You called me an idiot - I can only presume you didn't like me poking a little light hearted fun at Metallica. Surely if you've watched 'Some kind of Monster' you'd agree they are a band with a least something to find a grin about.

And as for successful, who cares? If that were the only criteria we'd be having this exchange on a Michael Jackson forum.

Now bugger off my thread if you can't be nice.

[Moose]

Ok I withdraw the last line - shouldn't post when grumpy - apologies

[Grumma]

If your posts actually had any depth to them and explained themselves I just might be able to make sense of them and post something back more then "what on earth are you talking about?"

One of your first posts talked about how Metallica simply repeat the same guitar riff yet one of the bands you mentioned that you liked (Midnight Oil) do exactly the same thing. Add in a guitar solo to a Midnight Oil song and they're the same length as the average Metallica song

Uh, which band forum are you on?
I stand by my remark.

[damo0945]

If your posts actually had any depth to them and explained themselves I just might be able to make sense of them and post something back more then "what on earth are you talking about?"

One of your first posts talked about how Metallica simply repeat the same guitar riff yet one of the bands you mentioned that you liked (Midnight Oil) do exactly the same thing. Add in a guitar solo to a Midnight Oil song and they're the same length as the average Metallica song


I stand by my remark.

living end use a LOT of overdubs, so don't really count i think he's saying :confused:

[Grumma]

What I'm saying is that a band with 2 guitarists has more options.
They can both play rhythm, they can play rhythm over lead both ways, they can dual solo, harmonise, trade off etc

With a single guitar player you can play rhythm or lead and that's about it

[Tyler_who]

The Cat Empire - The Wine Song
The Doors - Riders Of The Storm

[-George-]

Clubbed to Death br Rob D :)

Also known as the 'Woman In The Red Dress' song from The Matrix. :D

[The Dying Start]

What I'm saying is that a band with 2 guitarists has more options.
They can both play rhythm, they can play rhythm over lead both ways, they can dual solo, harmonise, trade off etc

With a single guitar player you can play rhythm or lead and that's about it

Correct. Hence why Tabloid Magazine sounds like shite live.

[Grumma]

It wasn't too bad (the Lowie version) but it definitely sounded "shallow" in terms of the guitar

[Moose]

Chris Cheney is terrific in getting what he does out of his guitar and switching rhythm and lead. There is nothing lacking live on tracks like 'All torn down'.

I don't think Jimi hendrix would have been improved for having a second guitar with him - some music needs the space.

[private_eye]

moneen - the last song i will ever want to sing
pretty much any mars volta song
cursive - staying alive (absolutely fantastic)
muse - knights of cydonia (amongst many, but thats my favourite of theirs)

and one of my all time favourite songs

jimmy eat world - disintegration

[Grumma]

Chris Cheney is terrific in getting what he does out of his guitar and switching rhythm and lead. There is nothing lacking live on tracks like 'All torn down'.

I don't think Jimi hendrix would have been improved for having a second guitar with him - some music needs the space.

a) I'm pretty sure TLE have taken an extra guitarist on tour with them before and

b) IMO the best solos are those that are played over the top of the main riff of the song.

[Burner]

a) I'm pretty sure TLE have taken an extra guitarist on tour with them before and

b) IMO the best solos are those that are played over the top of the main riff of the song.

When i saw then in Wodonga i saw a dude playing rythm but he was hiding behind a great column of speakers.

[Grumma]

lmao.

That's rather sad on the behalf of everyone involved if that was the case

*edit* and I also wanna tack on that if I could play guitar and had a decent recording device I'd add my own guitar part to All Torn Down to prove my point

[Burner]

Why is that sad? He was doing a bang on job of it too.

[Grumma]

It was sad cos he was hidden in behind all the crap.

If he's gonna play for the band at least show him enough respect to allow him to play with you

[tanguyen]

Green Day sometimes has a second guitarist but they never recognise him... he gets to stand at the front though but very far away from the band. Eskimo Joe has a permanent second guitarist as well but does not get recognised either.

[Grumma]

Yeah that's pretty dodgy.

As least give the guy some cred for improving your performance

[Disease]

Yeah that's pretty dodgy.

As least give the guy some cred for improving your performance

I agree. Fake extra members = not on.

[Grumma]

Especially in Green Day's case where it's pretty obvious there's an extra guitarist considering Billy Joe prances around on stage

[Johnny_Wah]

Correct. Hence why Tabloid Magazine sounds like shite live.

I couldn't agree more.

Chris does amazing stuff live though. Just think of 'Til the End. He plays the rhythm and lead together and makes it sound like two different guitarist. And sometimes the rhythm guitar track on an album is on such low volume, you can't tell the difference live.

[Julian]

I'm trying to think of how Till The End goes. There's not a whole lot of overdubs in it, is there?

[Burner]

It was sad cos he was hidden in behind all the crap.

If he's gonna play for the band at least show him enough respect to allow him to play with you

I was centre - front, on the barrier and i could see him pretty easy. I mean there was alot of shit and there wasn't that much space to stand. I think he was playing with some knobs and shit the the amps also, you can't exactly do that from anywhere else. But still, there is the morality of having extra musician to play with you live and shoving him out of the way.

[Grumma]

Yeah I agree with you wholeheartedly, although in my of my "bands" the guitarist isn't getting any credit for playing. Although there's a pretty good explanation for that; he didn't want cred for anything incase the bands that the lyrics are paying out hear the songs (which they will)

[Jawn]

I was centre - front, on the barrier and i could see him pretty easy. I mean there was alot of shit and there wasn't that much space to stand. I think he was playing with some knobs and shit the the amps also, you can't exactly do that from anywhere else. But still, there is the morality of having extra musician to play with you live and shoving him out of the way.

You probably saw the guitar tech setting up Chris' guitars and such in between songs. Whenever the guitar tech has come on stage to play, he gets introduced.

[Bec]

Green Day sometimes has a second guitarist but they never recognise him... he gets to stand at the front though but very far away from the band. Eskimo Joe has a permanent second guitarist as well but does not get recognised either.

They also had a third guitarist who got even less credit than Jason White on at least some of the shows in the American Idiot tour. I can't remember if I saw him on the official dvd or just an unofficial one of the Melbourne gig but I'm pretty sure there was a third guitarist who occasionally popped up in shots who didn't even get introduced.

And I don't understand why they don't just let Jason White join the band. I think he plays with them at pretty much every gig these days.

[Grumma]

It'll be a marketing strategy; they just want to stay a 3 piece

[Bec]

Yeah I know but everyone who has seen them live and a lot of people who haven't know about him and if anything I think it makes people like the band less, knowing there's another member who plays just as much, if not more but doesn't get the recognition he should.

[Grumma]

Yeah but those that do care about him not getting recognition would probably fall under the more mature category that liked Green Day before they really became popular and aren't likely to stop listening to them for that reason.

As a band Green Day, as far as fans go, would be more concerned about the ones that are most likely to go off them

[damo0945]

Green Day sometimes has a second guitarist but they never recognise him... he gets to stand at the front though but very far away from the band. Eskimo Joe has a permanent second guitarist as well but does not get recognised either.

green day do recognize their second guitarist, his name is Jason White and he performs in the "wake me up when september ends" video.

They also go through the extra musicians when playing live, except (i think) the other guitarist in st. jimmy. i don't know if they always do this but they did when i saw them (rod laver 05) and its on their live dvd

[Bec]

Yeah they went through all of them apart from the third one I was talking about who I just looked up and his name is Mike Pelino I think.

[cammo]

Dallas Crane doing Come Clean live is awesome and it goes for ages, massive breakdown in the middle (studio version is 7+ minutes too)

[Johnny_Wah]

I'm trying to think of how Till The End goes. There's not a whole lot of overdubs in it, is there?

Yeah theres a few. especially in the guitar solo with all the harmonies and stuff.

[Burner]

You probably saw the guitar tech setting up Chris' guitars and such in between songs. Whenever the guitar tech has come on stage to play, he gets introduced.

Yeah he could have been. I don't recall anyone being introduced and Chris didn't swap guitars halfway through.

[Jake]

It'd be like Good Charlotte officially having a drummer (albeit briefly), and Busted having an unofficial one.

[The Dying Start]

When i saw then in Wodonga i saw a dude playing rythm but he was hiding behind a great column of speakers.

I presume you're talking about Matt Handley, and he was probably just tuning up for the next song. They've had him on stage to play before (Back when they did the acoustic set sections in 2004), and he was always lead out front and intoduced.

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

eee rockstar matty!

[Marv From NZ]

It'd be like Good Charlotte officially having a drummer (albeit briefly), and Busted having an unofficial one.

LOL my friend was telling me about their "new" drummer. Slowly but surely i realised he used to drum for Morrissey!

[May]

Cant be arsed going thru every post here, but from the ones I browsed, didnt see Curse Of Milhaven by Nick Cave. And his O'Malleys Bar has 158 lines of lyrics (no chorus) in the liner notes.
I'm assuming folks would have listed Kashmir and Stairway.
Did Stevie Wrights Evie parts 1, 2 & 3 get a mention?
The Who had some doosies, (thinkin Quadraphenia) but I cant think of titles atm.

And then there's the song that doesnt end, yes it goes on and on my friend, some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that doesnt end...

[Colezy]

And then there's the song that doesnt end, yes it goes on and on my friend, some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that doesnt end...
Damn! How'd we all forget that one?! :p
I remember learning that way back in grade two!

[The Dying Start]

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Heard It Through The Grapevine (11.07)

It's so much fun too! It's like a jam session gone stupid.

[Grumma]

I don't think anyone has mentioned this; but there's a heap of Classical songs that are rediculously long. They're all instrumental to

[The Dying Start]

They're all as boring as batshit, too.

[Grumma]

Haha yeah well . ..
they're still long :p

[The Dying Start]

It's not always about length. It's about substance. Luckily, I hav both ;)

[Grumma]

lmao.

You're almost as good as me at scaring away little kiddies :p

[The Dying Start]

Yeah, but I don't then chase after them. And that is the difference. :p

[damo0945]

anyways...

most angels and airwaves songs are pretty long, there's one on their myspace called star of bethlehem that goes for 8:19

[Grumma]

Wanky prog metal/rock songs are still the best as far as length goes

[The Dying Start]

Angels & Airwaves disappointed me a great deal.

[damo0945]

me too actually, but i'm sorta getting into them now

[Johnny_Wah]

Wanky prog metal/rock songs are still the best as far as length goes

Too true. Nothing like John Petrucci playing with his teeth for 18 minutes in a row.

[Grumma]

haha exactly ;)

Or Mike Portnoy playing the same drum beat with the same fills for that amount of time as well :p

[The Dying Start]

me too actually, but i'm sorta getting into them now

I liked a couple of songs, and i appreciate the idea behind it. But it just came off as a whoooole lot of wank, essentially.

[Jawn]

The longest song ever written is a piece done by John Cage. Its basically playing right now, and will be played for a thousand years or so. Research about it!

[mel_bound]

The longest song ever written is a piece done by John Cage. Its basically playing right now, and will be played for a thousand years or so. Research about it!

I've heard of that! I haven't actually heard it though :p

[Johnny_Wah]

Any of Weird Al's polka medleys. Fantastic.

[Grumma]

Angry White Boy Polka is awsome

[Johnny_Wah]

Damn straight. Poodle Hat is his best album ever. But I craked up so hard with Canadian Idiot.

Firewind - Fire and the Fury

It's about 8 minutes

[Grumma]

A lot of Power Metal is that length :p

[Grumma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V5w6TH3aW8

so long YouTube had to divide it into 4 parts

Dream Theater's Octavarium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK3qylwd-M0

And my fave long song: Dante's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_DLehbzaoA) Inferno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wDHeHeVAJ0) (2 seperate links)

[Kylie eats dugong for tea]

The longest song ever written is a piece done by John Cage. Its basically playing right now, and will be played for a thousand years or so. Research about it!

its actually 639 years, sucker!

[Grumma]

Only 639 eh? :p

If it gets to 666 that'd be sweet

[Tyler_who]

Whats that john cage song called

[Grumma]

He wrote a song called 4'33" (?) that was just silence

[The Dying Start]

I've heard of that! I haven't actually heard it though :p

Make sure you listen to the whole track!

[Grumma]

Well I suppose the whole trilogy. And prophecy would be a long song, it is 6 minutes long.

Managed to find the Trilogy on YouTube from Alive In Athens :p

Something Wicked Part 1: Prophecy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6o-bQrkQu8)
Something Wicked Part 2: Birth Of The Wicked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1CXWXBwgXM)
Something Wicked Part 3: The Coming Curse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFcN6wMZjwY)

And on top of that you've got Travels In Stygian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUvNMunHtN8) which goes for 9 mins and then Dante's Inferno which had to be split into 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVdau231RQ) and 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqKKZMhTLAw) so it was small enough to be uploaded

[Grumma]

Alright: clearly this is the most epic, longest song eva
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dws87NR6DpM

[Higgins]

the new normal by cog is a awesome album.....only 2 songs are under 5 minutes.....particular favourites are the spine, naming the elephant and anarchy ok

[Grumma]

Anarchy OK is sweet.

But COG still don't come close to Dream Theater or Tool in the prog rock scale of long songs

[Higgins]

hmmm have never listened to dream theater...and cant seem to get into tool....my friend thinks its sacrelige that im not a tool fan

[Grumma]

Haha well with Dream Theater think Tool with a singer that sings up a couple of registers and wanky guitar solos